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BBC News: Nations & Regions

(April 2008)

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Inflatable Dartboard
Mr-Stabby posted:
Inflatable Dartboard posted:
Do the Plymouth presenters say anything like "And at this point we welcome Channel Islands viewers to the programme?". If not, it must seem a bit weird to CI viewers, to get such a firm *end* from St Helier, but for the Plymouth stuff to start in a way that probably feels too obviously *mid-programme* like.


I think maybe they just haven't realised that 'BBC Channel Islands' is trying to be it's own region now. Before the re-brand Spotlight CI would do a small promo of what would be coming up 'later in the programme' and they would sign off with 'we're going to hand you over now to (presenters names)' but now they just end with a generic goodbye and give no promo at all. Fair enough if they played an end sting or something, but they don't do that either. It just cuts straight into Plymouth.


Oh, that sounds very poor Shocked Surely they really ought to use a sting.

The beauty of a sting is, of course, that it can cover the seam better.

For example, if the sting takes 3-seconds to animate (?), the Oxford presenter presumably has to stop talking at least 5-seconds before the exact opt-in moment, as it's far better to have a "pregnant pause" at the end of the sting*, rather than either crashing-out of the sting too early, or crashing into Southampton too late/mid-sentence.

(*Seeings as the sting never really "ends" as such, as it continues gently animating indefinately, like a screensaver, with the drumbeat bed audio continuing)

Pesumably, for example, if Plymouth happened to be 7-seconds behind schedule when St Helier are finished, they'd just have to linger on the wideshot of the CI presenter, as their "pregnant pause" until Plymouth are ready for them.

This would leave the poor old CI presenter with egg-on-their-face, having to cover by either smiling vacuously, or shuffling papers or whatever. Hence, a sting would be better.
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SCBNI
Newsline used this endcap on Monday...

http://www.utvtoday.co.uk/images/tvf/newsline_endcap.jpg

...but from Tuesday have used this one...

http://www.utvtoday.co.uk/images/tvf/newsline_endcap2.jpg

They've also started using a new website caption as well:

http://www.utvtoday.co.uk/images/tvf/newsline_website1.jpg
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SCBNI
I've actually just noticed that they're promoting two different web addresses for BBC Newsline and the second one doesn't even work!
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Inflatable Dartboard


Ooh, double-female presenting, rather than mixed-gender Shocked Is this common on Newsline? Double-female or double-male presenting is "rarer than rocking-horse poo" here in England.
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Joe
StevieB posted:
The second one doesn't even work!

Oh, that's really terrible!
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Brekkie
Is Northern Ireland really that shape - it looks to be in completely different proportions to the earlier title sequences.
OH
ohwhatanight Founding member
button-wales posted:
Here's two captures from Wales Today

Sport
http://www.rp-network.com/tvforum/uploads/walestoday_sport_.jpg



That graphic just looks quite busy and not very well designed at all.

There is just too much going on with various fonts, various sizes, some capital and some lower case and too many blocks of colour. Also nothing seems to be aligned.


From a graphic design point of view it fails on every account! I can't think of one good thing to say about it!
Was this really created by graphic designers?
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Mr-Stabby
Inflatable Dartboard posted:

This would leave the poor old CI presenter with egg-on-their-face, having to cover by either smiling vacuously, or shuffling papers or whatever. Hence, a sting would be better.


I've got egg on my face now. Tonight they did use an end sting, though it was an election special and so it was specially made. Whether they continue using end stings remain to be seen, but it did make the programme ending so much more smoother, and as you say no long lingering shot of presenter shuffling papers, smiling a lot and pressing random buttons on laptop for 15 seconds without music.
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Inflatable Dartboard
Brekkie posted:
So it seems Newyddion may be the last chance the BBC has to impress with this look - and they've generally come out of these revamps the best in previous years, but I'm not exactly confident this time around.


If/when Newyddion gets the new look, I bet it'll just be a case of either "[ B ] [ B ] [ C ] CYMRU" or "[ B ] [ B ] [ C ] Cymru" in the red box, and grey writing saying either "NEWYDDION" or "[ B ] [ B ] [ C ] NEWYDDION" (or maybe even "NEWYDDION [ B ] [ B ] [ C ]" ?) in the white space above.

The "N" motif in the globe may or may not be retained.
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Primetime
I noticed NE & Cumbria now have the 'LOOK NORTH' dog on their astons / graphics. However during the headlines at 6.30, they still have 'BBC' followed by a read bar where its meant to say 'LOOK NORTH' but they have deleted this and put 'LOOK NORTH' in the headline strap.

Are any of the other regions doing this, or do they put the story title in the main strap?
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m_in_m
Inflatable Dartboard posted:
Ooh, double-female presenting, rather than mixed-gender Shocked Is this common on Newsline? Double-female or double-male presenting is "rarer than rocking-horse poo" here in England.


I have to say double-female headed is certainly not very rare on Look East. It is not uncommon to get the combination of Suzie and Amanda. Suzie and Carol, or Amanda and Carol. You can have whole programmes female presented, including the West opt.
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Inflatable Dartboard
m_in_m posted:
I have to say double-female headed is certainly not very rare on Look East. It is not uncommon to get the combination of Suzie and Amanda. Suzie and Carol, or Amanda and Carol. You can have whole programmes female presented, including the West opt.


Really? Shocked Well, as I'm going to be moving to live in Look East (West) land soon, I guess I'll soon be seeing this for myself! (Assuming that I don't pick up East Midlands instead, as Northampton town is in the overlap zone, isn't it?) Maybe I'll get Sky installed in my new pad, so I can vary my region! Smile

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