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VM
VMPhil
DanielK posted:
I think the Breakfast music from 2000 and the 2005(?) titles remix was quite nice!


Like them both but I think 2005 (I think it was 2002 actually) is better IMO.
IT
itsrobert Founding member
DanielK posted:
I think the Breakfast music from 2000 and the 2005(?) titles remix was quite nice!


There was no remix in 2005. The original music was composed in 2000 and it was first remixed in 2002. Then a new version was introduced in 2006 and the latest version in 2009.
SR
SomeRandomStuff
itsrobert posted:
DanielK posted:
I think the Breakfast music from 2000 and the 2005(?) titles remix was quite nice!


There was no remix in 2005. The original music was composed in 2000 and it was first remixed in 2002. Then a new version was introduced in 2006 and the latest version in 2009.

The changes are so subtle between the 2000 and 2002 versions that i bet most viewers didnt even notice. Especially considering the titles and set were almost identical.
DK
DanielK
Oh! the file I have is marked 2005, will amend it
CH
chris
itsrobert posted:
chris posted:
Another thing we ought to mention is the fact that many viewers dislike beds completely. I remember a feature on Newswatch complaining about the 2007 beds, saying they were too distracting from the sound of the newsreader (not sure I completely agree, mind). The spokesman for the BBC said beds are used in order to alert people to when there are headlines if they're not watching intently, so they can divert their attention back to the TV for the round-up.


I wonder which broadcaster/programme was first to use a headline bed in the UK? Personally, I think it's ITN. They started using a new Weekend News theme in 1982 which underscored all the headlines on the late bulletin. The BBC introduced its Chinese Lantern/Venetian Blinds theme in 1981, but that only had a very short bed which tailed off pretty quickly. I'm struggling to think of any examples earlier than that. Anyone?


I think the only BBC bulletin which had a bed prior to 1993 was the Nine O'Clock News (and probably also therefore weekend news).


VMPhil posted:
DanielK posted:
I think the Breakfast music from 2000 and the 2005(?) titles remix was quite nice!


Like them both but I think 2005 (I think it was 2002 actually) is better IMO.


I agree. The 2000 was quite weak. I remembered thinking the 2006 was quite refreshing and modern, along with the new set, but the very poor title sequence was what let that era down.
DK
DanielK
And the Breakfast music has always fitted in with the camera shots, if you get me.
IT
itsrobert Founding member
chris posted:
itsrobert posted:
chris posted:
Another thing we ought to mention is the fact that many viewers dislike beds completely. I remember a feature on Newswatch complaining about the 2007 beds, saying they were too distracting from the sound of the newsreader (not sure I completely agree, mind). The spokesman for the BBC said beds are used in order to alert people to when there are headlines if they're not watching intently, so they can divert their attention back to the TV for the round-up.


I wonder which broadcaster/programme was first to use a headline bed in the UK? Personally, I think it's ITN. They started using a new Weekend News theme in 1982 which underscored all the headlines on the late bulletin. The BBC introduced its Chinese Lantern/Venetian Blinds theme in 1981, but that only had a very short bed which tailed off pretty quickly. I'm struggling to think of any examples earlier than that. Anyone?


I think the only bulletin which had a bed prior to 1993 was the Nine O'Clock News (and probably also therefore weekend news).


Yes, I think that was introduced in October 1988. So, ITN have it hands down then. Not only with the 1982 weekend theme, but also the 1987 weekend theme (which had the headlines included within the opening music and punctuated by stabs) as well as the News at 545 music introduced in April 1988 (which had a headline bed following on from the titles).
CH
chris
itsrobert posted:
chris posted:
itsrobert posted:
chris posted:
Another thing we ought to mention is the fact that many viewers dislike beds completely. I remember a feature on Newswatch complaining about the 2007 beds, saying they were too distracting from the sound of the newsreader (not sure I completely agree, mind). The spokesman for the BBC said beds are used in order to alert people to when there are headlines if they're not watching intently, so they can divert their attention back to the TV for the round-up.


I wonder which broadcaster/programme was first to use a headline bed in the UK? Personally, I think it's ITN. They started using a new Weekend News theme in 1982 which underscored all the headlines on the late bulletin. The BBC introduced its Chinese Lantern/Venetian Blinds theme in 1981, but that only had a very short bed which tailed off pretty quickly. I'm struggling to think of any examples earlier than that. Anyone?


I think the only bulletin which had a bed prior to 1993 was the Nine O'Clock News (and probably also therefore weekend news).


Yes, I think that was introduced in October 1988. So, ITN have it hands down then. Not only with the 1982 weekend theme, but also the 1987 weekend theme (which had the headlines included within the opening music and punctuated by stabs) as well as the News at 545 music introduced in April 1988 (which had a headline bed following on from the titles).


Interesting to think also that Channel 4 News still doesn't have a bed, which in today's era is arguably more powerful than having one.
LO
looknorth
Mike W posted:


I remember Look North NEC used that by mistake for a few days in 08 and I thought it sounded much better than the final version. I hope more regions introduce it.
IT
itsrobert Founding member
chris posted:
itsrobert posted:
chris posted:
itsrobert posted:
chris posted:
Another thing we ought to mention is the fact that many viewers dislike beds completely. I remember a feature on Newswatch complaining about the 2007 beds, saying they were too distracting from the sound of the newsreader (not sure I completely agree, mind). The spokesman for the BBC said beds are used in order to alert people to when there are headlines if they're not watching intently, so they can divert their attention back to the TV for the round-up.


I wonder which broadcaster/programme was first to use a headline bed in the UK? Personally, I think it's ITN. They started using a new Weekend News theme in 1982 which underscored all the headlines on the late bulletin. The BBC introduced its Chinese Lantern/Venetian Blinds theme in 1981, but that only had a very short bed which tailed off pretty quickly. I'm struggling to think of any examples earlier than that. Anyone?


I think the only bulletin which had a bed prior to 1993 was the Nine O'Clock News (and probably also therefore weekend news).


Yes, I think that was introduced in October 1988. So, ITN have it hands down then. Not only with the 1982 weekend theme, but also the 1987 weekend theme (which had the headlines included within the opening music and punctuated by stabs) as well as the News at 545 music introduced in April 1988 (which had a headline bed following on from the titles).


Interesting to think also that Channel 4 News still doesn't have a bed, which in today's era is arguably more powerful than having one.


Indeed! They did use a headline bed between 1999 and the 2010 refresh, but it was only used for the 19:30 headlines recap. Never for the opening headlines. But more recently they don't use any form of underscore at all. Like you say, it's quite powerful.
VM
VMPhil
5 News didn't use a bed at the start of the programme during the white studio era: http://youtu.be/MQ97jv0oOXg?t=41s
MW
Mike W
itsrobert posted:
chris posted:
itsrobert posted:
chris posted:
Another thing we ought to mention is the fact that many viewers dislike beds completely. I remember a feature on Newswatch complaining about the 2007 beds, saying they were too distracting from the sound of the newsreader (not sure I completely agree, mind). The spokesman for the BBC said beds are used in order to alert people to when there are headlines if they're not watching intently, so they can divert their attention back to the TV for the round-up.


I wonder which broadcaster/programme was first to use a headline bed in the UK? Personally, I think it's ITN. They started using a new Weekend News theme in 1982 which underscored all the headlines on the late bulletin. The BBC introduced its Chinese Lantern/Venetian Blinds theme in 1981, but that only had a very short bed which tailed off pretty quickly. I'm struggling to think of any examples earlier than that. Anyone?


I think the only bulletin which had a bed prior to 1993 was the Nine O'Clock News (and probably also therefore weekend news).


Yes, I think that was introduced in October 1988. So, ITN have it hands down then. Not only with the 1982 weekend theme, but also the 1987 weekend theme (which had the headlines included within the opening music and punctuated by stabs) as well as the News at 545 music introduced in April 1988 (which had a headline bed following on from the titles).


Can we include the BBC English regions?: 1980 - BBC Midlands: http://hub.tv-ark.org.uk/dsplus/m.php?p=bbcmidlandstoday1983.rm

David Lowe

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