BA
Considering Question Time, and the Autumn Statement repeat, one wouldn't have to wait that long. If the news is that important to you, you can wait, look on the website - do whatever is necessary to get it. Not go to bed because you can't be bothered with the news you deemed so important.
But there was no guarantee that there would be other news at 0030. What if it had been postponed again until 0130? How long do you stay up waiting for the news which was promised at 2200?
Considering Question Time, and the Autumn Statement repeat, one wouldn't have to wait that long. If the news is that important to you, you can wait, look on the website - do whatever is necessary to get it. Not go to bed because you can't be bothered with the news you deemed so important.
HB
Supposingly this is a thread for World too?
George Alagiah begins a special edition of HardTalk where he introduces a 1990s edition of the program interviewing Nelson Mandela
When would George have filmed that opening as he hasn't been in Broadcasting House since the death except he had come in during Friday to film that little opening of HardTalk??
George Alagiah begins a special edition of HardTalk where he introduces a 1990s edition of the program interviewing Nelson Mandela
When would George have filmed that opening as he hasn't been in Broadcasting House since the death except he had come in during Friday to film that little opening of HardTalk??
BP
God, they've had so much obit material ready to go for years. Alagiah could've recorded that intro at any time in the last few years.
Supposingly this is a thread for World too?
George Alagiah begins a special edition of HardTalk where he introduces a 1990s edition of the program interviewing Nelson Mandela
When would George have filmed that opening as he hasn't been in Broadcasting House since the death except he had come in during Friday to film that little opening of HardTalk??
George Alagiah begins a special edition of HardTalk where he introduces a 1990s edition of the program interviewing Nelson Mandela
When would George have filmed that opening as he hasn't been in Broadcasting House since the death except he had come in during Friday to film that little opening of HardTalk??
God, they've had so much obit material ready to go for years. Alagiah could've recorded that intro at any time in the last few years.
SJ
It's interesting to note that Radio 4, certainly on their midnight news which I listened to, took a rather more balanced approach than their television colleagues. The bulk of the programme was about Mandela, but they also included pieces on the floods and the Autumn statement, and (IIRC) even included them in the main headlines at the top of the programme.
As for the argument that flood coverage should have been consigned to local radio: I was particularly interested in listening out for affected relatives in Norfolk and the North East while I was in London. I personally don't think it's unreasonable to expect a brief precis of the national picture now and again on a national bulletin, as I'm sure very many viewers will be interested in very many others outside their local area. I think Radio 4, as so often, judged this better than the TV news on this occasion - but I accept that it's a finely balanced judgement, and others will disagree.
As for the argument that flood coverage should have been consigned to local radio: I was particularly interested in listening out for affected relatives in Norfolk and the North East while I was in London. I personally don't think it's unreasonable to expect a brief precis of the national picture now and again on a national bulletin, as I'm sure very many viewers will be interested in very many others outside their local area. I think Radio 4, as so often, judged this better than the TV news on this occasion - but I accept that it's a finely balanced judgement, and others will disagree.
MA
Radio 4's 6 o'clock News sets the 'Gold Standard' as far as news bulletins go, it's refreshingly
straight forward, has a proper range of stories, even on days when something major dominates,
and is gimmick free.
I think Radio 4, as so often, judged this better than the TV news on this occasion
Radio 4's 6 o'clock News sets the 'Gold Standard' as far as news bulletins go, it's refreshingly
straight forward, has a proper range of stories, even on days when something major dominates,
and is gimmick free.
AN
Andrew
Founding member
It looks like the reason for the problem was that they were simulcasting the Ten on BBC World News, had they not have been they may probably have included the rest of the news.
I can't see any reason why they decided to simulcast, as the bulletin was mainly pre-recorded obituary's and any guests or live links would have to be done twice like what must happen all the time.
I can't see any reason why they decided to simulcast, as the bulletin was mainly pre-recorded obituary's and any guests or live links would have to be done twice like what must happen all the time.
GH
Just to summarise the Radio 4 coverage.
They broke in to the repeat edition of In Our Time for a news reader announcement at about 9.50
At the end of news reader announcement they joined the world service.
At 10pm Radio 4 did a special one hour edition of The World Tonight, with David Eades presenting as he would have been had the news not broke. All Mandela.
Finished by playing the South African anthem, leading to joining the world service for continued coverage from 11-12.
At midnight radio 4 then did the midnight news as normal, with a heavy focus on Mandela, but not exclusively.
I don't know what happened between 12.30-1 - but they would join the world service at 1 anyway.
The key difference with tv is that radio 4 had a bulletin at midnight. It would have been inappropriate for the News at Ten to cover anything but Mandela, but by midnight you could do that.
And, to summarise world service coverage.
Newshour broke the story live, presented by Tim franks
He then continued at 10pm with a rolling news hour, not scheduled.
At 11pm there was more rolling news, now with Tim franks and Audrey Brown from the African Service.
At midnight Julian Keane took over, I don't know who with though.
All in all, the world service coverage was excellent. And I think radio 4 made the right decision in carrying so much of it.
It's interesting to note that Radio 4, certainly on their midnight news which I listened to, took a rather more balanced approach than their television colleagues. The bulk of the programme was about Mandela, but they also included pieces on the floods and the Autumn statement, and (IIRC) even included them in the main headlines at the top of the programme.
As for the argument that flood coverage should have been consigned to local radio: I was particularly interested in listening out for affected relatives in Norfolk and the North East while I was in London. I personally don't think it's unreasonable to expect a brief precis of the national picture now and again on a national bulletin, as I'm sure very many viewers will be interested in very many others outside their local area. I think Radio 4, as so often, judged this better than the TV news on this occasion - but I accept that it's a finely balanced judgement, and others will disagree.
As for the argument that flood coverage should have been consigned to local radio: I was particularly interested in listening out for affected relatives in Norfolk and the North East while I was in London. I personally don't think it's unreasonable to expect a brief precis of the national picture now and again on a national bulletin, as I'm sure very many viewers will be interested in very many others outside their local area. I think Radio 4, as so often, judged this better than the TV news on this occasion - but I accept that it's a finely balanced judgement, and others will disagree.
Just to summarise the Radio 4 coverage.
They broke in to the repeat edition of In Our Time for a news reader announcement at about 9.50
At the end of news reader announcement they joined the world service.
At 10pm Radio 4 did a special one hour edition of The World Tonight, with David Eades presenting as he would have been had the news not broke. All Mandela.
Finished by playing the South African anthem, leading to joining the world service for continued coverage from 11-12.
At midnight radio 4 then did the midnight news as normal, with a heavy focus on Mandela, but not exclusively.
I don't know what happened between 12.30-1 - but they would join the world service at 1 anyway.
The key difference with tv is that radio 4 had a bulletin at midnight. It would have been inappropriate for the News at Ten to cover anything but Mandela, but by midnight you could do that.
And, to summarise world service coverage.
Newshour broke the story live, presented by Tim franks
He then continued at 10pm with a rolling news hour, not scheduled.
At 11pm there was more rolling news, now with Tim franks and Audrey Brown from the African Service.
At midnight Julian Keane took over, I don't know who with though.
All in all, the world service coverage was excellent. And I think radio 4 made the right decision in carrying so much of it.
BA
Having just watched James Harding being interviewed on Newswatch, I found it interesting when he said:
"Had we seen real breaking news on the weather that meant we needed to inform people immediately, we would have done so."
That is a very important point - did anything important actually happen that was missed by the BBC in the time it didn't talk about the storm on TV?
"Had we seen real breaking news on the weather that meant we needed to inform people immediately, we would have done so."
That is a very important point - did anything important actually happen that was missed by the BBC in the time it didn't talk about the storm on TV?
DO
Likewise, was the Mandela story really developing that fast that they couldn't have taken a few minutes every now and again to cover other stories?
That is a very important point - did anything important actually happen that was missed by the BBC in the time it didn't talk about the storm on TV?
Likewise, was the Mandela story really developing that fast that they couldn't have taken a few minutes every now and again to cover other stories?