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CI
cityprod
cat posted:


CBS pulling out of ENEX would be a big deal. They're the biggest contributor, and there's no other US broadcasters in there.


There wouldn't be. ENEX do deals on a market exclusive basis, so there's only one broadcaster in each market that has access. In the US, that's CBS currently, whilst in the UK, it's Sky News.
TM
tmorgan96
Peter Jennings would be rolling in his grave at the current state of ABC News. A good decision for the BBC to jump over to arguably the better broadcaster.
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RK
Rkolsen
cat posted:


CBS pulling out of ENEX would be a big deal. They're the biggest contributor, and there's no other US broadcasters in there.


There wouldn't be. ENEX do deals on a market exclusive basis, so there's only one broadcaster in each market that has access. In the US, that's CBS currently, whilst in the UK, it's Sky News.


Is ENEX that better than the EBU's Eurovision News Exchange - which has many more partners. What's the difference aside from territorial exclusivity - they both seem to rely on shared content, provide satellite uplink services, uplink routine news events / press conference pool feeds, offer live shot positions at events? Is it that one provides complete ready to air packages, just video clips for clients to assemble. I would hope Eurovision News Exchange content is embargoed within member countries like the AP or CNN embargoes content within a broadcast market in the US.

I would say that is quite a "get" for the BBC as CBS's domestic and international reporting (although third in the ratings - ABC has won total viewers but NBC has won the key demos) is top notch and high quality. And CBS gets access to all the BBC worldwide content and bureaus in almost every country. I do wonder if this could lead to CBS closing some of their international bureaus - from what I've heard they have the most of the US networks.

Now would this contract include access to CBS Newspath content that affiliates uplink?
JU
Justin
It got a brief mention on CBS This Morning

MA
mark Founding member
ABC did feel like the most natural bedfellow for the BBC back in the 90s, but nowadays they definitely have more in common editorially with CBS. This sounds like a good move.

Not sure when the BBC News Channel stopped showing ABC World News in the early hours, but it hasn't been on for a while.
CI
cityprod
cat posted:


CBS pulling out of ENEX would be a big deal. They're the biggest contributor, and there's no other US broadcasters in there.


There wouldn't be. ENEX do deals on a market exclusive basis, so there's only one broadcaster in each market that has access. In the US, that's CBS currently, whilst in the UK, it's Sky News.


Is ENEX that better than the EBU's Eurovision News Exchange - which has many more partners. What's the difference aside from territorial exclusivity - they both seem to rely on shared content, provide satellite uplink services, uplink routine news events / press conference pool feeds, offer live shot positions at events? Is it that one provides complete ready to air packages, just video clips for clients to assemble. I would hope Eurovision News Exchange content is embargoed within member countries like the AP or CNN embargoes content within a broadcast market in the US.


Main difference really is cost. Smaller membership fee in general than EBU, and having free access to all material in the content pool, where in the EBU and other similar news agencies, you also pay for each thing you use. I imagine the much smaller cost overall is a huge factor in that decision. I know if it were me making that decision, it certainly would be a huge factor for me.

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I would say that is quite a "get" for the BBC as CBS's domestic and international reporting (although third in the ratings - ABC has won total viewers but NBC has won the key demos) is top notch and high quality. And CBS gets access to all the BBC worldwide content and bureaus in almost every country. I do wonder if this could lead to CBS closing some of their international bureaus - from what I've heard they have the most of the US networks.


I could imagine a degree of co-location and sharing of costs, which might actually help both financially.
NG
noggin Founding member


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CBS News is still part of ENEX, as is Sky News, so there is still a connection with Sky, but this BBC deal seems to be a new 'network affiliation' deal.


It may now be the case that some / all CBS material on ENEX is marked as 'not Sky' given the new BBC deal.


Given the nature of the European News Exchange (ENEX), I'm not sure that's possible.

Members pay a yearly membership fee. Members submit material to the content pool, but they are not allowed to charge for it. But they can use all material in the content pool, free of charge.

CBS are already an associate member of the EBU, so they might have to pull out of ENEX, but given all that access to free material, they might not want to pull out.


Does ENEX not have exceptions - like APTN, Reuters, EVN etc. had - where certain content is slated to point out some broadcasters don't have access?
CI
cityprod



It may now be the case that some / all CBS material on ENEX is marked as 'not Sky' given the new BBC deal.


Given the nature of the European News Exchange (ENEX), I'm not sure that's possible.

Members pay a yearly membership fee. Members submit material to the content pool, but they are not allowed to charge for it. But they can use all material in the content pool, free of charge.

CBS are already an associate member of the EBU, so they might have to pull out of ENEX, but given all that access to free material, they might not want to pull out.


Does ENEX not have exceptions - like APTN, Reuters, EVN etc. had - where certain content is slated to point out some broadcasters don't have access?


I don't know, but I imagine that the fact they don't charge for individual clips might also mean that they don't limit access to the content pool.
NG
noggin Founding member

Given the nature of the European News Exchange (ENEX), I'm not sure that's possible.

Members pay a yearly membership fee. Members submit material to the content pool, but they are not allowed to charge for it. But they can use all material in the content pool, free of charge.

CBS are already an associate member of the EBU, so they might have to pull out of ENEX, but given all that access to free material, they might not want to pull out.


Does ENEX not have exceptions - like APTN, Reuters, EVN etc. had - where certain content is slated to point out some broadcasters don't have access?


I don't know, but I imagine that the fact they don't charge for individual clips might also mean that they don't limit access to the content pool.


Historically neither APTN nor EVN nor Reuters charged full subscribers on a clip by clip basis - but you had to respect the slates. (APTN used to carry a lot of "Sky - no access BBC" and I think Reuters had "ITN - No access BBC", as occasionally did EVN...

APTN and Reuters had separate deals for some specific feeds (SNTV and Showbiz) that only certain BBC outlets subscribed to - so everyone knew not to use content on those.
CI
cityprod

Does ENEX not have exceptions - like APTN, Reuters, EVN etc. had - where certain content is slated to point out some broadcasters don't have access?


I don't know, but I imagine that the fact they don't charge for individual clips might also mean that they don't limit access to the content pool.


Historically neither APTN nor EVN nor Reuters charged full subscribers on a clip by clip basis - but you had to respect the slates. (APTN used to carry a lot of "Sky - no access BBC" and I think Reuters had "ITN - No access BBC", as occasionally did EVN...

APTN and Reuters had separate deals for some specific feeds (SNTV and Showbiz) that only certain BBC outlets subscribed to - so everyone knew not to use content on those.


I think with CBS, ABC and others being associate members of EBU, they might have had to pay an additional fee for the clips they used.
NG
noggin Founding member

I don't know, but I imagine that the fact they don't charge for individual clips might also mean that they don't limit access to the content pool.


Historically neither APTN nor EVN nor Reuters charged full subscribers on a clip by clip basis - but you had to respect the slates. (APTN used to carry a lot of "Sky - no access BBC" and I think Reuters had "ITN - No access BBC", as occasionally did EVN...

APTN and Reuters had separate deals for some specific feeds (SNTV and Showbiz) that only certain BBC outlets subscribed to - so everyone knew not to use content on those.


I think with CBS, ABC and others being associate members of EBU, they might have had to pay an additional fee for the clips they used.


Yes - but full members, like the BBC, don't (or didn't)...
CI
cityprod

Historically neither APTN nor EVN nor Reuters charged full subscribers on a clip by clip basis - but you had to respect the slates. (APTN used to carry a lot of "Sky - no access BBC" and I think Reuters had "ITN - No access BBC", as occasionally did EVN...

APTN and Reuters had separate deals for some specific feeds (SNTV and Showbiz) that only certain BBC outlets subscribed to - so everyone knew not to use content on those.


I think with CBS, ABC and others being associate members of EBU, they might have had to pay an additional fee for the clips they used.


Yes - but full members, like the BBC, don't (or didn't)...


But that was the point. We weren't talking about a full member, we were talking about an associate member, CBS.

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