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BBC News Journalists to stage 2 48 Hour Strikes

5th-6th & 15th-16th November (October 2010)

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DV
DVB Cornwall
I suppose that at Midnight we''ll see a repeat of the process used at the start of the action, with the 11pm hour repeated to enable people to get into the building and established again in their roles for a resumption of 'normal service' at 1am.
GE
thegeek Founding member
james posted:
Not sure if this has anything to do with the stike but after Eastenders last night the BBC Four end credits squeeze (the black gradient one) was used; then the background animated away leaving the coming up boxes and the video without a background before the announcer cut back to the credits.
Sounds more like the playout system having a wobbly at the Broadcast Centre.
KA
karthics2
Watching BBC News and it looks like there is a more generic feel to the bulletin due to the strike. Gavin Grey is doing quite a good job of presenting the bulletins Razz Better than the regular two person job
NG
noggin Founding member
House posted:
And I completely understand your points, and I'm aware of Paul Mason's track record. It was interesting to see him very publicly confronting Mark Byford in front of photographers and I wondered how upper management might perceive this type of behaviour.

I suspect most of the 'upper management' will think it is perfectly normal. Don't forget that lots of BBC upper management come from the newsroom or a current affairs background (Mark Thompson, Mark Byford, Jana Bennett etc.) In previous years this upper management could easily have been on a picket line don't forget...

Mark Byford is currently Head of BBC Journalism (as well as deputy DG) AND has one of the healthiest BBC pensions - hence he could reasonably expect a robust response as he crossed the picket.

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In regards to Emma Crosby, I get the impression Emma Crosby has easily as much credibility as BBC presenters like Louise Minchin or Kate Silverton, who are both seen quite highly at the Beeb these days. Casting aside her (relatively short) spell at GMTV, Emma had become quite respected at Sky and a fairly experienced business presenter and correspondent at Sky and CNBC.


Not sure I agree with the Louise Minchin comparison - who whilst distinctive in on-screen terms, and with growing experience of a wider range of non-news programmes - Missing Live, The One Show etc.) has a strong journalistic background and has been a presenter on News 24/BBC News Channel since 1997. I can see the Kate Silverton comparison, as Kate has never really convinced me as particularly incisive. However Kate manages to cultivate a more 'credible' on-screen presence though (mainly through glasses ?) - Emma just strikes me as a bit lightweight - and GMTV/Daytime (Could see her doing ITV News easily).

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Also, I seem to remember a lot of tabloid attention when she joined GMTV about her 'old-lady' fashion sense. Funny how things change.


The curse of regional 'power jackets'?
DS
Dan S
Chris Rogers on from 5 - not many headlines in the TOTH sequence (which, BTW, in my opinion is a lot more bearable than usual!)
Last edited by Dan S on 6 November 2010 5:07pm
HO
House
House posted:
And I completely understand your points, and I'm aware of Paul Mason's track record. It was interesting to see him very publicly confronting Mark Byford in front of photographers and I wondered how upper management might perceive this type of behaviour.

I suspect most of the 'upper management' will think it is perfectly normal. Don't forget that lots of BBC upper management come from the newsroom or a current affairs background (Mark Thompson, Mark Byford, Jana Bennett etc.) In previous years this upper management could easily have been on a picket line don't forget...

Mark Byford is currently Head of BBC Journalism (as well as deputy DG) AND has one of the healthiest BBC pensions - hence he could reasonably expect a robust response as he crossed the picket.


Very true. I guess the only reason I wondered was because the BBC isn't an ordinary workplace, being a very high-profile organisation with some high-profile employees generating high-profile media stories, so wasn't sure if 'upper management' would use the same kind of logic other employers would. You've now answered that wonder, Smile .


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Not sure I agree with the Louise Minchin comparison - who whilst distinctive in on-screen terms, and with growing experience of a wider range of non-news programmes - Missing Live, The One Show etc.) has a strong journalistic background and has been a presenter on News 24/BBC News Channel since 1997. I can see the Kate Silverton comparison, as Kate has never really convinced me as particularly incisive. However Kate manages to cultivate a more 'credible' on-screen presence though (mainly through glasses ?) - Emma just strikes me as a bit lightweight - and GMTV/Daytime (Could see her doing ITV News easily).


I wasn't trying to compare on looks or their profiles, but rather on their more recent track records. If you skip out the GMTV bit, Emma was a relatively high-profile newsreader and presenter on Sky News for many years, which included regularly presenting weekend Sunrise. She was a reporter on the channel before that, a reporter and presenter at CNBC before that and if you go back far enough a producer on BBC News 24 before that! She only became the main business presenter a few months before moving to GMTV - a position now held by former News 24 presenter Anna Jones.

When you bare in mind someone like Sian Williams started as a producer/editor on News 24 (incredibly briefly) before becoming a presenter on the channel, then become a special correspondent and a stand-in for the Six O'Clock News and then moved to Breakfast (I'm missing out some bits, such as a period as maternity cover for Fiona Bruce, for example) then I don't think you can claim Emma Crosby is a more light-weight newsreader than someone like Sian, who is now one of the most senior newsreaders at the BBC.

What I will give you is she joined News 24 as a producer straight out of university (apparently), though I think that says more about the BBC than it does about her.

I'm not saying you can compare Emma Crosby to someone like Nick Robinson or John Humphreys, but to suggest she isn't a credible newsreader is perhaps unfair. I'd really try and avoid thinking she's been tainted by GMTV, too. She was seen as credible and - while clearly very attractive - not the kind of glamorous presenter she may now appear to be before joining GMTV. She was a surprise choice for GMTV too, and many on this forum at the time were hopeful it was a step towards GMTV becoming more newsy and serious.

How wrong we were.


And regarding Kate Silverton, does anyone know if she has an at all credible background prior to News 24? The best I can find is that she trained at Look North, worked at Tyne Tees and then did a whole heap of barely-journalistic work, such as the Heaven and Earth show and The Wright Stuff. Then she went to News 24 and - let's face it - was there a fairly short time (compared to others) before being rocketed onto BBC 1. She seems more presenter than journalist.
LL
London Lite Founding member
No regional news showing on the Freeview EPG.
WA
watchingtv
EDIT:
BBC Press Office says no regional news today. What happens to any staff though that would be prepared to work today. Day off or expected to do other work?


was mentioned earlier today before the midday news on BBC One
WA
watchingtv
BBC News on BBC One & BBC One HD!!! With Chris Rodgers
DS
Dan S
Chris on the early evening news, for a full 25-minute bulletin

Why does the continuity announcer keep saying 'BBC One and BBC One HD'?
EX
excel99
Apologies if already mentioned but one high profile person working today, James Landale
DS
Dan S
James Landale in Downing Street

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