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Markymark
More of a worry on last night's 'Ten', was the idiot that decided to deliberately degrade the video quality of footage from July 2005's Stockwell Tube station coverage. Err why ?

And then Laura Klunsburg's (sp) ludicrous report, where to illustrate visually, and literally 'cut and paste', she took two books, cut out pages from one, and glued them into another . I was so amazed at what I was watching, I totally failed to take in what the story was actually about. Even a 10 year viewer would have felt insulted.
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mizzb
Markymark posted:
More of a worry on last night's 'Ten', was the idiot that decided to deliberately degrade the video quality of footage from July 2005's Stockwell Tube station coverage. Err why ?

And then Laura Klunsburg's (sp) ludicrous report, where to illustrate visually, and literally 'cut and paste', she took two books, cut out pages from one, and glued them into another . I was so amazed at what I was watching, I totally failed to take in what the story was actually about. Even a 10 year viewer would have felt insulted.


Kuenesberg's another one where I'm wondering how did she rise so suddenly in the BBC. I'm mystified.
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CyberCD
In defence of people like Laura, the reports on the 6 and 10 aren't truly the work of the journalist - all the 'creativity' will be devised by a segment producer.

Many of the journos hate it.
MA
Matrix
mizzb posted:
Markymark posted:
More of a worry on last night's 'Ten', was the idiot that decided to deliberately degrade the video quality of footage from July 2005's Stockwell Tube station coverage. Err why ?

And then Laura Klunsburg's (sp) ludicrous report, where to illustrate visually, and literally 'cut and paste', she took two books, cut out pages from one, and glued them into another . I was so amazed at what I was watching, I totally failed to take in what the story was actually about. Even a 10 year viewer would have felt insulted.


Kuenesberg's another one where I'm wondering how did she rise so suddenly in the BBC. I'm mystified.


You'll even find she's filling in as the Politcal Editor in the blog world...
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TVN
calum141 posted:
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Newsroom posted:
Where are all you anti Natasha posters - She's doing the TEN!


Tomights err... tonight's main news again.

Need I say more?

Oh and she seems to have caught GA's head swinging condition.

Don't forget the giggling! ''It's been ten years since the death of Prince, sorry Princess Diana (smile, turns head to George and laughs)...''


Oh this is going on over two threads now - leave the journalist alone.


What journalist?

Although I must admit she just about passed as adequate last night.

I quite agree with the above, she is a TV personality primarily, not a newsreader. I don't think that she is primarily 'half' an anchor, she was much better and much less distracted on her own last night. Perhaps George keeps dangling a ball of wool over her head (ref. Dead Ringers).

There is a wealth of talent they could use on the six, Susanna, Sian, Louise, Emily etc. all cast shadows over Natasha.


The people who work at the BBC do have lifes you know - Natasha is obviously available to work and put her name down to fill in. There is nothing wrong with her to be honest - some people are so sensative. She reads the scripts and introduces each news piece. Not exactly effecting you.


What do you think I'm talking about?
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gilsta
Markymark posted:
More of a worry on last night's 'Ten', was the idiot that decided to deliberately degrade the video quality of footage from July 2005's Stockwell Tube station coverage. Err why ?


Because there were old news reports over the footage, and Ofcom guidelines require old news reports to be distorted in some way so as to avoid someone just tuning in thinking there had been another shooting on the tube.

On the subject of the cut and paste, I thought it worked quite well. It was a story that was quite hard to illustrate visually and could too easily have been consined to the "news in brief" round up using stock footage of an EU flag. I'm going to stick my neck out and guess that story did not feature on ITV or Sky last night?
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Markymark
gilsta posted:
Markymark posted:
More of a worry on last night's 'Ten', was the idiot that decided to deliberately degrade the video quality of footage from July 2005's Stockwell Tube station coverage. Err why ?


Because there were old news reports over the footage, and Ofcom guidelines require old news reports to be distorted in some way so as to avoid someone just tuning in thinking there had been another shooting on the tube.


Can you provide a link to Ofcom's website, to back that assertion up ? I'd be very interested to see it. Call me old fashioned, but surely the caption that said "July 2005" provides a big clue for even the dimmest of viewers ?

gilsta posted:

On the subject of the cut and paste, I thought it worked quite well. It was a story that was quite hard to illustrate visually and could too easily have been consined to the "news in brief" round up using stock footage of an EU flag.


No you are joking, right ?
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Markymark
gilsta posted:
Because there were old news reports over the footage, and Ofcom guidelines require old news reports to be distorted in some way so as to avoid someone just tuning in thinking there had been another shooting on the tube.


Can you provide a link to Ofcom's website, to back that assertion up ? I'd be very interested to see it. Call me old fashioned, but surely the caption that said "July 2005" provides a big clue for even the dimmest of viewers ?

gilsta posted:

On the subject of the cut and paste, I thought it worked quite well. It was a story that was quite hard to illustrate visually and could too easily have been consined to the "news in brief" round up using stock footage of an EU flag.


Now you are joking, right ?
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gilsta
Its not a case about dim viewers, that regulations in place for all circumstances such as tv dramas featuring fake news reports. Ok, I understand a report about a man being shot by the police on the tube would cause most reasonably-minded people to double take but if you switched on to hear about a bomb blast with random images of police cars running around and reports saying "x killed as bomb explode..."

As for the cut and paste, it was QUITE a good attempt at covering a story that could have so easily been ignored, like so many are, for lack of visuals.
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Markymark
gilsta posted:
Its not a case about dim viewers, that regulations in place for all circumstances such as tv dramas featuring fake news reports. Ok, I understand a report about a man being shot by the police on the tube would cause most reasonably-minded people to double take but if you switched on to hear about a bomb blast with random images of police cars running around and reports saying "x killed as bomb explode..."


I see plenty examples of 'unmungled' archive reports used in News 24 trailers, that certainly cause me to look up from a book I'm reading, thinking what I'm hearing is live. I find that unacceptable. As I say, please show me where on Ofcom's website I can find these guidelines, because I intend to complain.

gilsta posted:

As for the cut and paste, it was QUITE a good attempt at covering a story that could have so easily been ignored, like so many are, for lack of visuals.


If a journalist has to resort to silly visual puns such as this to get their story across, then they're not properly qualified. Laura K may well have been forced by her producer to do that, but in my experience journalists are a pushy lot who never take no for an answer, so she should have had the integrity not to do it. The fact she did makes her complicit in my view.
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gilsta
I didn't read Ofcom's website or guides, thats just what I've been taught.

I'm sorry you found that report patronising but it is far less likely to have made the Ten if it was just a report over stock images, it was an attempt to make that story interesting both visually and narratively. Newsnight uses the same techniques, albeit at a much higher production standard.
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all new Phil
imnogoth posted:
[If she struggles to read lines of an autocue I'd hate to see her on News 24 or something during breaking news - she'd be terrible!

Well funnily enough, she was excellent at handling breaking news when she worked for Sky - I think people here forget her previous job.

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