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January 2007 onwards (January 2007)

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AN
Andrew Founding member
Spencer For Hire posted:
Eugh - what have they done to the new headline strap? It's now got a black background and tacked onto the right of the globe graphic. Looks awful.

[edit]... and here it is...

http://www.rp-networkservices.com/tvforum/uploads/one.jpg

Even Emily appears to be turning her nose up at it.

Probably the most strangest shaped graphic ever, what's wrong with just a square!
IN
intheknow
Why don't they just go back to proper "window" graphic keys instead of this slug, it would illustrate the story better and look a lot better on screen too.
BN
Breakfast News
And the Six has just gone back to the one they had been using with the text over the globe...must have realised it looked crap on the One.
MD
mdtauk
I don't want to see the return of Window Keys on screen - they could use the newswall/big screen for that if they felt the need.

I think they should replace the Globe Box with a plain black box, or something more subtle so the text can be put into the box, not to the side of it.
GR
gregmc
Andrew posted:
Spencer For Hire posted:
Eugh - what have they done to the new headline strap? It's now got a black background and tacked onto the right of the globe graphic. Looks awful.

[edit]... and here it is...

http://www.rp-networkservices.com/tvforum/uploads/one.jpg

Even Emily appears to be turning her nose up at it.

Probably the most strangest shaped graphic ever, what's wrong with just a square!


They have a great big wall of screens why dont they use them for insets. Something like this maybe?

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/156/373622048_2ca7796dec.jpg
BB
BBC LDN
gregmc posted:
They have a great big wall of screens why dont they use them for insets. Something like this maybe?

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/156/373622048_2ca7796dec.jpg


Hopefully, they'll run spellcheck before putting it on air though.
GR
gregmc
BBC LDN posted:
gregmc posted:
They have a great big wall of screens why dont they use them for insets. Something like this maybe?

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/156/373622048_2ca7796dec.jpg


Hopefully, they'll run spellcheck before putting it on air though.


Haha!! Soz. Embarassed It wasnt ment to be perfect, just a concept but still I should have first. Ah well. The BBC should use the screens more though, IMO. There just being wasted if they only use them for 'stand up' stories, and not when at the desk, apart from a pretty much static background.
JR
jrothwell97
The design of the slug's reverted back to how it was before as of tonight's Six .
CH
chris
jrothwell97 posted:
The design of the slug's reverted back to how it was before as of tonight's Six .


If you read the thread, you'll notice that's already been said.
TS
twisted slack
gregmc posted:
BBC LDN posted:
gregmc posted:
They have a great big wall of screens why dont they use them for insets. Something like this maybe?

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/156/373622048_2ca7796dec.jpg


Hopefully, they'll run spellcheck before putting it on air though.


Haha!! Soz. Embarassed It wasnt ment to be perfect, just a concept but still I should have first. Ah well. The BBC should use the screens more though, IMO. There just being wasted if they only use them for 'stand up' stories, and not when at the desk, apart from a pretty much static background.


I like the concept but it's probably not red enough. I keep seeing female reporters doing two ways who are wearing bright scarlet coats which seem to be in the BBC corporate colours. I can't recall seeing anyone who wasn't, although that might just be me...
OH
ohwhatanight Founding member
I admittedly haven't watched a full BBC News bulletin for a while and decided to watch today's One O'clock News on BBC One.

I still think as the BBC as having a really good reputation, setting the news agenda and having a polished, quality product.

How wrong I was.

My major gripe with the bulletin was that it now feels like a 30 minute opt from BBC News 24! This new square studio doesnt lend itself to anything really - with the presenter looking quite lost when the wide shot is used. The backdrop was quite dull with it not being utilised enough to provide supplementary images to each story. Also the presenter had quite scary eyes aswell.

Essentially (it seemed) that about 80% of this news bulletin was infact the studio presenter handing over to numerous lives around the country , and the world. There were very little crafted items in the bulletin and it had a really bad feel about it. It would've been great if it was just a certain half hour from a rolling news channel but for the first main news bulletin on BBC One to contain just loads of people talking to camera with not a lot else happening really didnt work for me.

I want to see crafted items, with graphics, indepth reports and something to engage me as a viewer. I didn't get this from numerous talking heads littered everywhere.

Production-wise it just all felt rushed and lacking in that something special that BBC News bulletins used to provide.

There were a few minor techincal difficulties but that didn't matter - the overall construction of the whole bulletin felt wrong.

For some contrast I thought I'd turn over and watch the ITV News at 13:28! And this did fall into some of the same traps with a lot of talking heads but it felt as if the presenter (Nic Owen) engaged with the location reporters a bit more and in the 20 minutes that ITV News was on-air I felt that they covered more stories and that it felt more like a news bulletin compared to the BBC's longer equivalent.

Just thought I would post this to see what other people's views are.
And to pose the questions: -

Are critical BBC News resources being sucked away onto News 24, so much so, that it's detrimental to the main News Bulletins?

Are these BBC One News bulletins using live location reporters just because they were dispatched to originally report for BBC News 24?

PS I really love all the additions and developments to BBC News 24 over the last year and now watch it over SKY¦News! It really has found it's feet and is my favourite news channel.
MO
Moz
I agree about the point about lots of talking heads and too much focus on showing you 'the scene' of the news. It's like watching 5 different newsreaders reading the news from where it happened, linked together from the studio by someone who just hands over to the reporter.

I'd much prefer to see a proper - as you say, crafted - report, showing various places and people involved in the story, with the reporter talking to lots of people, than a live two-way. Yes the two way is live, but it's very limited. I want to know what's happened in a programme like the 1, not what's happening now (which is usually nothing).

Rolling news channels do something similar when they say, "lets just show you a live shot of that street". Yes, the street was probably interesting when whatever made the news was actually happening, but you didn't have a camera there then, and having one there now nothings happening isn't interesting!

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