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January 2007 onwards (January 2007)

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GR
gregmc
Moz posted:
NickyS posted:
Interesting article in this week's Broadcast about the BBC holding its nerve when News At Ten comes back ... but there are some interesting quotes from Peter Horrocks the head of the multi-media newsroom.
There is a line saying ..

The broadcaster is planning to make a "low key tweak" to the Ten O'Clock News and all its news bulletins from April, as part of a drive to use the BBC News brand consistently across all its journalism. Details are still being worked out but the bulletins would maintain the traditional globe and red colouring, Horrocks added.
Instead of competing on content, the BBC will capitalise on it's "consistent" approach to news.

Full article on Broadcast online although you do need a log in ..
http://www.broadcastnow.co.uk/news/2007/12/bbc_news_we_will_hold_our_nerve_at_10_oclock.html

So the end to individual branding of the 1, 6 and 10 (and possibly the 5?) and News 24 becoming just BBC News?


IMO, if anything that will make the brand weaker as there are no identifiable names per bulliten. Is that to say that the One will include exactly the same content, aimed at the same audience as the 10?It wont, there needs to be a line to seperate the different target audiences.
MA
mansoor
http://www.bbc.co.uk/pressoffice/pressreleases/stories/2007/12_december/17/news.shtml

KEY POINTS:

BBC News 24 , the UK's most-watched news channel, continued to increase its reach.

Figures show that, on average, during 2007 News 24 reached 6.6 million viewers each week, increasing its lead over Sky News which had a reach of 4.3 million.

This is up on the average for the past two years – 5.6 million in 2006 and 5.2 million in 2005.

The BBC News website remains the UK's most popular online news site, attracting an average weekly reach of 13.8 million users globally (over the period January to September 2007).

Averages for BBC bulletins in 2007 (so far):

BBC Ten O'Clock News - 4.9 million viewers, with an average audience share of 23.3%

BBC Six O'Clock News - 4.2 million viewers, with an average audience share of 24.5%.

BBC One O'Clock News - 2.7 million, with an average audience share of 41.0%
MO
Moz
mansoor posted:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/pressoffice/pressreleases/stories/2007/12_december/17/news.shtml

KEY POINTS:

BBC News 24 , the UK's most-watched news channel, continued to increase its reach.

Figures show that, on average, during 2007 News 24 reached 6.6 million viewers each week, increasing its lead over Sky News which had a reach of 4.3 million.

This is up on the average for the past two years – 5.6 million in 2006 and 5.2 million in 2005.

The BBC News website remains the UK's most popular online news site, attracting an average weekly reach of 13.8 million users globally (over the period January to September 2007).

Averages for BBC bulletins in 2007 (so far):

BBC Ten O'Clock News - 4.9 million viewers, with an average audience share of 23.3%

BBC Six O'Clock News - 4.2 million viewers, with an average audience share of 24.5%.

BBC One O'Clock News - 2.7 million, with an average audience share of 41.0%

Was expecting some sort of announcement at the end of that. Something along the lines of "...so we can reveal that on the back of these results..." But nothing!
MA
mansoor
Moz posted:
mansoor posted:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/pressoffice/pressreleases/stories/2007/12_december/17/news.shtml

KEY POINTS:

BBC News 24 , the UK's most-watched news channel, continued to increase its reach.

Figures show that, on average, during 2007 News 24 reached 6.6 million viewers each week, increasing its lead over Sky News which had a reach of 4.3 million.

This is up on the average for the past two years – 5.6 million in 2006 and 5.2 million in 2005.

The BBC News website remains the UK's most popular online news site, attracting an average weekly reach of 13.8 million users globally (over the period January to September 2007).

Averages for BBC bulletins in 2007 (so far):

BBC Ten O'Clock News - 4.9 million viewers, with an average audience share of 23.3%

BBC Six O'Clock News - 4.2 million viewers, with an average audience share of 24.5%.

BBC One O'Clock News - 2.7 million, with an average audience share of 41.0%

Was expecting some sort of announcement at the end of that. Something along the lines of "...so we can reveal that on the back of these results..." But nothing!


LOL

I know what you mean, its not every year the beeb does this.
NE
Newsroom
Interesting......


Chaos at BBC News
MO
Moz
Newsroom posted:
Interesting......


Chaos at BBC News

Well this changes things a bit. All news programmes coming from TC7 then from January for 10 weeks. So to revise my original guess...

Arrow January - Breakfast, 1, 6 and 10 move into TC7 leaving N6 free for upgrade
Arrow March/April - News 24 (including the 1, 6 and 10) moves into N6 leaving N8 free for upgrade
Arrow June/July - World moves into N8

Thing is, how will Working Lunch and Newsnight be affected? In the Mirror article it says Newsnight will have 7 minutes to prepare the set, so does this mean that it will be starting later? 10.40 perhaps?
BE
Ben Founding member
I'm guessing the 1 O'Clock will come from News 24 while the work is being carried out so there won't be a mad rush for Working Lunch. I imagine the Ten O'Clock News will now end before regional news, with Newsnight maybe starting a minute or two later than it currently does.

If you remember during the local elections Newsnight actually switched studios half way through - how mad is that!
NE
Newsroom
Moz posted:
Newsroom posted:
Interesting......


Chaos at BBC News

Well this changes things a bit. All news programmes coming from TC7 then from January for 10 weeks. So to revise my original guess...

Arrow January - Breakfast, 1, 6 and 10 move into TC7 leaving N6 free for upgrade
Arrow March/April - News 24 (including the 1, 6 and 10) moves into N6 leaving N8 free for upgrade
Arrow June/July - World moves into N8

Thing is, how will Working Lunch and Newsnight be affected? In the Mirror article it says Newsnight will have 7 minutes to prepare the set, so does this mean that it will be starting later? 10.40 perhaps?


What exactly are they planning on doing as part of the upgrade?
MO
Moz
Newsroom posted:
Moz posted:
Newsroom posted:
Interesting......


Chaos at BBC News

Well this changes things a bit. All news programmes coming from TC7 then from January for 10 weeks. So to revise my original guess...

Arrow January - Breakfast, 1, 6 and 10 move into TC7 leaving N6 free for upgrade
Arrow March/April - News 24 (including the 1, 6 and 10) moves into N6 leaving N8 free for upgrade
Arrow June/July - World moves into N8

Thing is, how will Working Lunch and Newsnight be affected? In the Mirror article it says Newsnight will have 7 minutes to prepare the set, so does this mean that it will be starting later? 10.40 perhaps?


What exactly are they planning on doing as part of the upgrade?

Making N6 suitable for News 24 to come from there, ie suitable for a 24 hour news channel. Also, all studios (N6, N8 and TC7) are having technical upgrades as they haven't been done in years apparently.
NG
noggin Founding member
All of the current News studios were either built or refurbished in the mid-to-late 1990s. Some have had their cameras replaced since, and new servers installed, but there are other things that need to be upgraded.

As others have said, the current BBC One studio is being re-engineered to allow News 24 to broadcast from there. (Quite a significant change)
MO
Moz
noggin posted:
All of the current News studios were either built or refurbished in the mid-to-late 1990s. Some have had their cameras replaced since, and new servers installed, but there are other things that need to be upgraded.

As others have said, the current BBC One studio is being re-engineered to allow News 24 to broadcast from there. (Quite a significant change)

Noggin, when you say "quite a significant change", do you know something about the changes, or are you just surmising? Are they changing N6's look at all, just working on something to be displayed on the backdrop, or are they just technical changes behind the scenes?

To me something would have to be done physically to solve the problem that there would be no way to recreate the current N8 set-up where both presenters can talk to a correspondent on 'their' screens. This can't be done in N6 using the wall as it's too far from one of the presenters.

Here, Natasha can talk to a correspondent:
http://www.tvnewsroom.co.uk/images/bbcnews/misc/relaunch/six09.jpg

...but George wouldn't be able to:
http://www.tvnewsroom.co.uk/images/bbcnews/misc/relaunch/six13.jpg

...unless they did something like this:
http://www.tvnewsroom.co.uk/images/bbcnews/misc/relaunch/six07.jpg

...or they could put the desk in the corner for News 24 like this:
http://www.tvnewsroom.co.uk/images/bbcnews/misc/relaunch/bfast-06.jpg

...but Sian hardly looks comfortable looking over her shoulder there!
TV
archiveTV
Moz posted:
Newsroom posted:
Interesting......


Chaos at BBC News

Well this changes things a bit. All news programmes coming from TC7 then from January for 10 weeks. So to revise my original guess...

Arrow January - Breakfast, 1, 6 and 10 move into TC7 leaving N6 free for upgrade
Arrow March/April - News 24 (including the 1, 6 and 10) moves into N6 leaving N8 free for upgrade
Arrow June/July - World moves into N8

Thing is, how will Working Lunch and Newsnight be affected? In the Mirror article it says Newsnight will have 7 minutes to prepare the set, so does this mean that it will be starting later? 10.40 perhaps?


They are completely wrong about the seven minutes.

It's actually six

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