IT
Yes, the 'Your News' approach to the Six worried me a bit too. I'm not a fan of this 'citizen journalism' thing which has emerged over recent months.
By the way, they definitely did the weather. Dan Corbett presented it.
itsrobert
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Stitch08 posted:
The end of the Six was unusual today. George was promoting the new Your News feature on the show, where people can email in stories (sounds like a bad idea to me, especially if it's going to be like the Your News show on News 24), and we saw a shot of him and the desk superimposed over some video footage so that you couldn't see the rest of the studio at all. Also, is it just me, or did they miss out the weather, I can't remember seeing it?
Yes, the 'Your News' approach to the Six worried me a bit too. I'm not a fan of this 'citizen journalism' thing which has emerged over recent months.
By the way, they definitely did the weather. Dan Corbett presented it.
IT
Yes, and don't forget ITV's disastrous 'Pulse' thing during the Lunchtime News which encouraged viewers to participate. I, too, would have expected the BBC to avoid this sort of thing. You wouldn't get hospitals asking the public to contribute to surgical procedures, so in my opinion, you shouldn't get them involved in journalism. Journalists are trained in their field, so we should leave it up to them. Reading a few emails out every now and then is fine, but nothing more than that.
itsrobert
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josh205 posted:
Seeing the 'Your News' promo did worry me a bit, especially seeing it on the BBC. I would have thought they would have trashed the idea, especially after the ITV News Uploaded idea has flopped.
Yes, and don't forget ITV's disastrous 'Pulse' thing during the Lunchtime News which encouraged viewers to participate. I, too, would have expected the BBC to avoid this sort of thing. You wouldn't get hospitals asking the public to contribute to surgical procedures, so in my opinion, you shouldn't get them involved in journalism. Journalists are trained in their field, so we should leave it up to them. Reading a few emails out every now and then is fine, but nothing more than that.
ST
Yes, and don't forget ITV's disastrous 'Pulse' thing during the Lunchtime News which encouraged viewers to participate. I, too, would have expected the BBC to avoid this sort of thing. You wouldn't get hospitals asking the public to contribute to surgical procedures, so in my opinion, you shouldn't get them involved in journalism. Journalists are trained in their field, so we should leave it up to them. Reading a few emails out every now and then is fine, but nothing more than that.
On the Your News website(see here)it says:
The trouble is that there was nothing at all wrong with 'those days'. There's no need for us to tell them what to do - knowing what to do is there job!
itsrobert posted:
josh205 posted:
Seeing the 'Your News' promo did worry me a bit, especially seeing it on the BBC. I would have thought they would have trashed the idea, especially after the ITV News Uploaded idea has flopped.
Yes, and don't forget ITV's disastrous 'Pulse' thing during the Lunchtime News which encouraged viewers to participate. I, too, would have expected the BBC to avoid this sort of thing. You wouldn't get hospitals asking the public to contribute to surgical procedures, so in my opinion, you shouldn't get them involved in journalism. Journalists are trained in their field, so we should leave it up to them. Reading a few emails out every now and then is fine, but nothing more than that.
On the Your News website(see here)it says:
Quote:
The days when we were journalists and you sat back and watched the news are over.
The trouble is that there was nothing at all wrong with 'those days'. There's no need for us to tell them what to do - knowing what to do is there job!
IT
Yes, and don't forget ITV's disastrous 'Pulse' thing during the Lunchtime News which encouraged viewers to participate. I, too, would have expected the BBC to avoid this sort of thing. You wouldn't get hospitals asking the public to contribute to surgical procedures, so in my opinion, you shouldn't get them involved in journalism. Journalists are trained in their field, so we should leave it up to them. Reading a few emails out every now and then is fine, but nothing more than that.
On the Your News website(see here)it says:
The trouble is that there was nothing at all wrong with 'those days'. There's no need for us to tell them what to do - knowing what to do is there job!
Exactly. I, and I'm sure many others, am not interested in what Edna from Grimsby thinks about world affairs. I want an impartial report on important happenings in the UK and the world by a trained journalist who knows the legalities and technicalities of the job.
itsrobert
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Stitch08 posted:
itsrobert posted:
josh205 posted:
Seeing the 'Your News' promo did worry me a bit, especially seeing it on the BBC. I would have thought they would have trashed the idea, especially after the ITV News Uploaded idea has flopped.
Yes, and don't forget ITV's disastrous 'Pulse' thing during the Lunchtime News which encouraged viewers to participate. I, too, would have expected the BBC to avoid this sort of thing. You wouldn't get hospitals asking the public to contribute to surgical procedures, so in my opinion, you shouldn't get them involved in journalism. Journalists are trained in their field, so we should leave it up to them. Reading a few emails out every now and then is fine, but nothing more than that.
On the Your News website(see here)it says:
Quote:
The days when we were journalists and you sat back and watched the news are over.
The trouble is that there was nothing at all wrong with 'those days'. There's no need for us to tell them what to do - knowing what to do is there job!
Exactly. I, and I'm sure many others, am not interested in what Edna from Grimsby thinks about world affairs. I want an impartial report on important happenings in the UK and the world by a trained journalist who knows the legalities and technicalities of the job.
ST
Also interesting to see some of Sophie's comments in an interview for Your News.
Seems like a very busy person!
The only good thing about Your News is that as far as I can see from the website it won't be a feature on the Ten, so at least one bulletin will remain free from such stories.
Quote:
How do you spend your free time?
I don't have any...as soon as I get home from work, my nanny leaves and I spend the rest of my time looking after my two small children.
So the other half of my day is children's tea parties, the playground, swimming lessons and the supermarket!
I don't have any...as soon as I get home from work, my nanny leaves and I spend the rest of my time looking after my two small children.
So the other half of my day is children's tea parties, the playground, swimming lessons and the supermarket!
Seems like a very busy person!
The only good thing about Your News is that as far as I can see from the website it won't be a feature on the Ten, so at least one bulletin will remain free from such stories.
PE
On the Your News website(see here)it says:
The trouble is that there was nothing at all wrong with 'those days'. There's no need for us to tell them what to do - knowing what to do is there job!
Nope it's not. The problem is, that if you do a report or package on something that's happened in Iraq, the vast majority of the audience wouldn't care less (harsh I know), so therefore they'll turn off. Just take a look at the BBC News Most popular system on the website and you'll see exactly what I mean. Take for example a car accident that killed several people and caused traffic delays in London.
The public outside of the M25 don't give two hoots about it, so therefore will ignore it, and therefore you may just have lost the audience who have just gone elsewhere.
You can't do everything that happens, nor can you ignore the big stories - this way may just be a compromise.
peterrocket
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Stitch08 posted:
On the Your News website(see here)it says:
Quote:
The days when we were journalists and you sat back and watched the news are over.
The trouble is that there was nothing at all wrong with 'those days'. There's no need for us to tell them what to do - knowing what to do is there job!
Nope it's not. The problem is, that if you do a report or package on something that's happened in Iraq, the vast majority of the audience wouldn't care less (harsh I know), so therefore they'll turn off. Just take a look at the BBC News Most popular system on the website and you'll see exactly what I mean. Take for example a car accident that killed several people and caused traffic delays in London.
The public outside of the M25 don't give two hoots about it, so therefore will ignore it, and therefore you may just have lost the audience who have just gone elsewhere.
You can't do everything that happens, nor can you ignore the big stories - this way may just be a compromise.
JW
Its not that that bothered me. It was all those stories about her personal life that put me off.
LOL. You must have been the only one to hear them, then. LOL.
Gavin Scott posted:
all new Phil posted:
I'm not sure I'd call Moira clear. She sounds like she's speaking through her nose.
Its not that that bothered me. It was all those stories about her personal life that put me off.
LOL. You must have been the only one to hear them, then. LOL.
IT
On the Your News website(see here)it says:
The trouble is that there was nothing at all wrong with 'those days'. There's no need for us to tell them what to do - knowing what to do is there job!
Nope it's not. The problem is, that if you do a report or package on something that's happened in Iraq, the vast majority of the audience wouldn't care less (harsh I know), so therefore they'll turn off. Just take a look at the BBC News Most popular system on the website and you'll see exactly what I mean. Take for example a car accident that killed several people and caused traffic delays in London.
The public outside of the M25 don't give two hoots about it, so therefore will ignore it, and therefore you may just have lost the audience who have just gone elsewhere.
You can't do everything that happens, nor can you ignore the big stories - this way may just be a compromise.
The idea of public involvement seems like a slippery slope towards scrapping national and international news altogether and just providing regional news. With globalisation, countries are far more dependent on each other than they were 20+ years ago. What happens half way around the world can directly affect us here in the UK. I think the broadcasters would be fools to allow too much editorial control to go to the public. Just because they don't want it, does that mean the broadcasters should stop offering it? Shouldn't they be trying to raise people's interests in events further afield rather than giving in and pandering to what they want?
I agree that a compromise needs to be reached, but I think it should be up to journalists, not the public.
itsrobert
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peterrocket posted:
Stitch08 posted:
On the Your News website(see here)it says:
Quote:
The days when we were journalists and you sat back and watched the news are over.
The trouble is that there was nothing at all wrong with 'those days'. There's no need for us to tell them what to do - knowing what to do is there job!
Nope it's not. The problem is, that if you do a report or package on something that's happened in Iraq, the vast majority of the audience wouldn't care less (harsh I know), so therefore they'll turn off. Just take a look at the BBC News Most popular system on the website and you'll see exactly what I mean. Take for example a car accident that killed several people and caused traffic delays in London.
The public outside of the M25 don't give two hoots about it, so therefore will ignore it, and therefore you may just have lost the audience who have just gone elsewhere.
You can't do everything that happens, nor can you ignore the big stories - this way may just be a compromise.
The idea of public involvement seems like a slippery slope towards scrapping national and international news altogether and just providing regional news. With globalisation, countries are far more dependent on each other than they were 20+ years ago. What happens half way around the world can directly affect us here in the UK. I think the broadcasters would be fools to allow too much editorial control to go to the public. Just because they don't want it, does that mean the broadcasters should stop offering it? Shouldn't they be trying to raise people's interests in events further afield rather than giving in and pandering to what they want?
I agree that a compromise needs to be reached, but I think it should be up to journalists, not the public.