NG
It is quite common to reshuffle correspondents every couple of years - and the job title goes with the location (you don't use your job title on-air - you use the title relevant to the job you are doing - if you catch my drift) - so if you are in Rome you are a Rome Correspondent, if you are in Jerusalem you are a Jerusalem Correspondent etc. There are exceptions to this - but not many.
I would have thought there would have been a lot of exceptions to that. You shouldn't be (and most of the time aren't) labelled as a Rome Correspondent if you're just sent to Rome at the last minute to cover a story. To be labelled as a Rome Correspondent you should be familar with the city, maybe live there, have contacts there etc, not just be passing through. The ones that aren't true correspondents to the area are usually referred to as 'our correspondent in the region/city'.
Yes - that is also the case - when I said "when you are in Rome" - I meant when you are sent to Rome to cover the Rome correspondent duties, not when you are sent to Rome to cover a story.
It is not at all unusual to second a correspondent to a city for a short period, to provide holiday cover - or to send a correspondent to cover a story developing at a time when the regular correspondent in that city is unavailable, or two stories are developing in their region at once and they are covering one of them. On these occasions the seconded reporter is often described as "XXX Correspondent".
When a reporter is sent from London for a specific story - say to cover a conference or cover a specific event - and they are there not for geographical reasons (i.e. not on their patch) but for editorial reasons, then they are often described in non geographical terms - such as "World Affairs Correspondent" or "Security Correspondent" - and their geographical location given secondary importance.
noggin
Founding member
Karl posted:
noggin posted:
gilsta posted:
Correspondants change roles all the time for any number of reasons. They are also given fake titles while they cover for others. Christian Fraser was still Rome/Vatican Correspondant when he was in the Middle East but it would've been rather inflammatory to refer to him by his proper title while covering the Israel/Lebannon conflict.
It is quite common to reshuffle correspondents every couple of years - and the job title goes with the location (you don't use your job title on-air - you use the title relevant to the job you are doing - if you catch my drift) - so if you are in Rome you are a Rome Correspondent, if you are in Jerusalem you are a Jerusalem Correspondent etc. There are exceptions to this - but not many.
I would have thought there would have been a lot of exceptions to that. You shouldn't be (and most of the time aren't) labelled as a Rome Correspondent if you're just sent to Rome at the last minute to cover a story. To be labelled as a Rome Correspondent you should be familar with the city, maybe live there, have contacts there etc, not just be passing through. The ones that aren't true correspondents to the area are usually referred to as 'our correspondent in the region/city'.
Yes - that is also the case - when I said "when you are in Rome" - I meant when you are sent to Rome to cover the Rome correspondent duties, not when you are sent to Rome to cover a story.
It is not at all unusual to second a correspondent to a city for a short period, to provide holiday cover - or to send a correspondent to cover a story developing at a time when the regular correspondent in that city is unavailable, or two stories are developing in their region at once and they are covering one of them. On these occasions the seconded reporter is often described as "XXX Correspondent".
When a reporter is sent from London for a specific story - say to cover a conference or cover a specific event - and they are there not for geographical reasons (i.e. not on their patch) but for editorial reasons, then they are often described in non geographical terms - such as "World Affairs Correspondent" or "Security Correspondent" - and their geographical location given secondary importance.
SA
Nicholas Witchell is Royal Correspondant isn't he? And he was in Baghdad recently for a week or so . . . .
how was he referred to?
just 'over to Nicholas Witchell in Baghdad' or 'Nicholas Witchell with this report'. He wasn't referred to as Baghdad correspondant cos every one knows he is Royal Correspondant - but it's easy to accept him as an experienced journalist who can deal with more than the usual domestic indifference to the Royals.
how was he referred to?
just 'over to Nicholas Witchell in Baghdad' or 'Nicholas Witchell with this report'. He wasn't referred to as Baghdad correspondant cos every one knows he is Royal Correspondant - but it's easy to accept him as an experienced journalist who can deal with more than the usual domestic indifference to the Royals.
JR
Who's that reporter on the
Six
talking about Gordon Brown at the TUC? He can't seem to finish a sentence without fluffing it. 
GI
How can network BBC News just report a "British / Northern Irish" person has died in the tragic Phuket plane crash when BBC Newsline is reporting their name and the story of how his friend survived but is in critical condition. There are various other tragic stories ignored, such as two couples from Israel on their honeymoons who perished or the Australian man who survived the tsunami as well as this crash.
We all know how if only Jonny Foreigners were killed this story would be largely ignored but I dare say if someone from England rather than Derry was killed the reporting would be rather different.
We all know how if only Jonny Foreigners were killed this story would be largely ignored but I dare say if someone from England rather than Derry was killed the reporting would be rather different.
IT
Well, the authorities are still not sure exactly how many people have died and they are having difficulty identifying people and their nationalities because of severe burns from the inferno inside the plane. The chap from Northern Ireland is, as far as I know, the only confirmed Briton to so far have been killed. And the domestic BBC News (and any other domestic services) is always going to have a UK slant because it is only broadcasting to the UK. BBC World and other international channels give a more balanced treatment because they are being beamed to all four corners of the globe.
itsrobert
Founding member
gilsta posted:
How can network BBC News just report a "British / Northern Irish" person has died in the tragic Phuket plane crash when BBC Newsline is reporting their name and the story of how his friend survived but is in critical condition. There are various other tragic stories ignored, such as two couples from Israel on their honeymoons who perished or the Australian man who survived the tsunami as well as this crash.
We all know how if only Jonny Foreigners were killed this story would be largely ignored but I dare say if someone from England rather than Derry was killed the reporting would be rather different.
We all know how if only Jonny Foreigners were killed this story would be largely ignored but I dare say if someone from England rather than Derry was killed the reporting would be rather different.
Well, the authorities are still not sure exactly how many people have died and they are having difficulty identifying people and their nationalities because of severe burns from the inferno inside the plane. The chap from Northern Ireland is, as far as I know, the only confirmed Briton to so far have been killed. And the domestic BBC News (and any other domestic services) is always going to have a UK slant because it is only broadcasting to the UK. BBC World and other international channels give a more balanced treatment because they are being beamed to all four corners of the globe.
GI
Well, the authorities are still not sure exactly how many people have died and they are having difficulty identifying people and their nationalities because of severe burns from the inferno inside the plane. The chap from Northern Ireland is, as far as I know, the only confirmed Briton to so far have been killed. And the domestic BBC News (and any other domestic services) is always going to have a UK slant because it is only broadcasting to the UK. BBC World and other international channels give a more balanced treatment because they are being beamed to all four corners of the globe.
Yes but what I said is the chap from Derry is almost being ignored by the BBC which is contrast to what we would expect would someone from the mainland have perished. And its not a question of lack of material, Martin McGuinness knew him and gave Newsline a soundbite as did a local priest. Network didn't even give his name.
itsrobert posted:
gilsta posted:
How can network BBC News just report a "British / Northern Irish" person has died in the tragic Phuket plane crash when BBC Newsline is reporting their name and the story of how his friend survived but is in critical condition. There are various other tragic stories ignored, such as two couples from Israel on their honeymoons who perished or the Australian man who survived the tsunami as well as this crash.
We all know how if only Jonny Foreigners were killed this story would be largely ignored but I dare say if someone from England rather than Derry was killed the reporting would be rather different.
We all know how if only Jonny Foreigners were killed this story would be largely ignored but I dare say if someone from England rather than Derry was killed the reporting would be rather different.
Well, the authorities are still not sure exactly how many people have died and they are having difficulty identifying people and their nationalities because of severe burns from the inferno inside the plane. The chap from Northern Ireland is, as far as I know, the only confirmed Briton to so far have been killed. And the domestic BBC News (and any other domestic services) is always going to have a UK slant because it is only broadcasting to the UK. BBC World and other international channels give a more balanced treatment because they are being beamed to all four corners of the globe.
Yes but what I said is the chap from Derry is almost being ignored by the BBC which is contrast to what we would expect would someone from the mainland have perished. And its not a question of lack of material, Martin McGuinness knew him and gave Newsline a soundbite as did a local priest. Network didn't even give his name.
IT
Well, the authorities are still not sure exactly how many people have died and they are having difficulty identifying people and their nationalities because of severe burns from the inferno inside the plane. The chap from Northern Ireland is, as far as I know, the only confirmed Briton to so far have been killed. And the domestic BBC News (and any other domestic services) is always going to have a UK slant because it is only broadcasting to the UK. BBC World and other international channels give a more balanced treatment because they are being beamed to all four corners of the globe.
Yes but what I said is the chap from Derry is almost being ignored by the BBC which is contrast to what we would expect would someone from the mainland have perished. And its not a question of lack of material, Martin McGuinness knew him and gave Newsline a soundbite as did a local priest. Network didn't even give his name.
But there's hardly anything to report. The guy's dead. That's it. The media are, quite rightly, more focussed on the crash as a whole, i.e. how and why it happened, implications for the aviation industry in the Asia-Pacific region. There's only so much that can be said with regards to one confirmed fatality. Local news programmes are always going to give more importance to the story because they have a much smaller area to cover. It isn't BBC Newsline's job to report on how/why the crash happened. It's their duty to discuss the casualty and his standing in the community. For instance, take the Rhys Jones case. When he was shot, it was covered by the national news for a few days, as well as the funeral the following week. That was that. Even tonight, nearly a month on, the local news programmes in the North West are still featuring him in their agendas.
itsrobert
Founding member
gilsta posted:
itsrobert posted:
gilsta posted:
How can network BBC News just report a "British / Northern Irish" person has died in the tragic Phuket plane crash when BBC Newsline is reporting their name and the story of how his friend survived but is in critical condition. There are various other tragic stories ignored, such as two couples from Israel on their honeymoons who perished or the Australian man who survived the tsunami as well as this crash.
We all know how if only Jonny Foreigners were killed this story would be largely ignored but I dare say if someone from England rather than Derry was killed the reporting would be rather different.
We all know how if only Jonny Foreigners were killed this story would be largely ignored but I dare say if someone from England rather than Derry was killed the reporting would be rather different.
Well, the authorities are still not sure exactly how many people have died and they are having difficulty identifying people and their nationalities because of severe burns from the inferno inside the plane. The chap from Northern Ireland is, as far as I know, the only confirmed Briton to so far have been killed. And the domestic BBC News (and any other domestic services) is always going to have a UK slant because it is only broadcasting to the UK. BBC World and other international channels give a more balanced treatment because they are being beamed to all four corners of the globe.
Yes but what I said is the chap from Derry is almost being ignored by the BBC which is contrast to what we would expect would someone from the mainland have perished. And its not a question of lack of material, Martin McGuinness knew him and gave Newsline a soundbite as did a local priest. Network didn't even give his name.
But there's hardly anything to report. The guy's dead. That's it. The media are, quite rightly, more focussed on the crash as a whole, i.e. how and why it happened, implications for the aviation industry in the Asia-Pacific region. There's only so much that can be said with regards to one confirmed fatality. Local news programmes are always going to give more importance to the story because they have a much smaller area to cover. It isn't BBC Newsline's job to report on how/why the crash happened. It's their duty to discuss the casualty and his standing in the community. For instance, take the Rhys Jones case. When he was shot, it was covered by the national news for a few days, as well as the funeral the following week. That was that. Even tonight, nearly a month on, the local news programmes in the North West are still featuring him in their agendas.
GI
Well, the authorities are still not sure exactly how many people have died and they are having difficulty identifying people and their nationalities because of severe burns from the inferno inside the plane. The chap from Northern Ireland is, as far as I know, the only confirmed Briton to so far have been killed. And the domestic BBC News (and any other domestic services) is always going to have a UK slant because it is only broadcasting to the UK. BBC World and other international channels give a more balanced treatment because they are being beamed to all four corners of the globe.
Yes but what I said is the chap from Derry is almost being ignored by the BBC which is contrast to what we would expect would someone from the mainland have perished. And its not a question of lack of material, Martin McGuinness knew him and gave Newsline a soundbite as did a local priest. Network didn't even give his name.
But there's hardly anything to report. The guy's dead. That's it.
So he's just a statistic and his name isn't worth reporting?
itsrobert posted:
gilsta posted:
itsrobert posted:
gilsta posted:
How can network BBC News just report a "British / Northern Irish" person has died in the tragic Phuket plane crash when BBC Newsline is reporting their name and the story of how his friend survived but is in critical condition. There are various other tragic stories ignored, such as two couples from Israel on their honeymoons who perished or the Australian man who survived the tsunami as well as this crash.
We all know how if only Jonny Foreigners were killed this story would be largely ignored but I dare say if someone from England rather than Derry was killed the reporting would be rather different.
We all know how if only Jonny Foreigners were killed this story would be largely ignored but I dare say if someone from England rather than Derry was killed the reporting would be rather different.
Well, the authorities are still not sure exactly how many people have died and they are having difficulty identifying people and their nationalities because of severe burns from the inferno inside the plane. The chap from Northern Ireland is, as far as I know, the only confirmed Briton to so far have been killed. And the domestic BBC News (and any other domestic services) is always going to have a UK slant because it is only broadcasting to the UK. BBC World and other international channels give a more balanced treatment because they are being beamed to all four corners of the globe.
Yes but what I said is the chap from Derry is almost being ignored by the BBC which is contrast to what we would expect would someone from the mainland have perished. And its not a question of lack of material, Martin McGuinness knew him and gave Newsline a soundbite as did a local priest. Network didn't even give his name.
But there's hardly anything to report. The guy's dead. That's it.
So he's just a statistic and his name isn't worth reporting?