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January 2007 onwards (January 2007)

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calum141
Jonathan posted:
Perhaps you're not old enough to either remember such images in history, or care about what's going on outside of your backyard.

If somebody's bad teeth was as disgusting as you described, and was likely to have offended viewers, the report would have come with a warning. Graphics are important in this case because they are effective in portraying a point with emphasis, and it's certainly worked because it has had such an effect on you.


No I'm not selfish - I care about that and it upsets me ALOT, there is absolutely nothing personally I can do but the audience in relation I do not think needed to see such graphical images at the time of the performance. There was around 5/6 images and one seriously disguisting one and there was no warning. It's news but no need to use such image. It is my opinion however so you beg to differ! Smile
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rob Founding member
Andrew posted:
I feel that the regional news programmes ending with the national headlines is not working

The presenters have to come out of the 'and finally' silly story or the weather banter laughing and then abruptly go all serious, read the national headline and then end the programme seriously

They should either drop it or reintroduce the Six update


I say they should bring back the Six Update. It's just not right with this new national headline insert these days.
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bbc140
Hi,

Does anyone know what date the 8pm News bulletin starts? Also have they chosen a length yet? 60seconds or 90?

Thanks,

bbc140
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itsrobert Founding member
calum141 posted:
Quite frankly the BBC 6 o' clock news team are a bunch of t****rs. I don't usually slag the BBC off but they have just showed graphical pictures of really bad looking teeth after smoking - this is SIX O CLOCK, people are eating dinner/tea now!! I bet there are complaints.


What an insensitive and narrow-minded comment to make. I suspect you must not be old enough to remember the famine in Ethiopia, the genocide in Rwanda, the wars in the Balkans, the IRA bombs...all of which were covered on the Six O'Clock News in the 1980s and 1990s. Are you suggesting that the BBC should censor news because it has disturbing images? In my opinion, that's not a democracy.

So what if you didn't like the image of the person's mouth? That's what's supposed to happen. If you had listened properly to the actual news content, you'd have realised the images are to discourage people from smoking. That may just be an image on a TV screen to you, but to some that's real life...and it could just as easily happen to you.
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calum141
I suppose I can admit I was not justified in my comments. Real life, real news - it has to be shown to the audience. Personally, I don't think such pictures are suitable to such an audience who could be sat down for dinner and seeing such images. But storys have to be told and if we don't see the reality of the story then we won't understand the feelings of the story.
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Moz
calum141 posted:
Quite frankly the BBC 6 o' clock news team are a bunch of t****rs. I don't usually slag the BBC off but they have just showed graphical pictures of really bad looking teeth after smoking - this is SIX O CLOCK, people are eating dinner/tea now!! I bet there are complaints.

Never understood why what you see effects you when you're eating. I used to work in a hospital where we watched live video feeds from the theatres while eating our lunch.

Anyway, civilised people would be sat around the table eating meals with their families, not watching TV. Serves the scroats that aren't right!
JO
Jonathan
I agree, I don't know many people who sit with a television dinner to watch the news. Dramatic images are there for a reason and they have a long lasting effect.

Oh and to add a personal lunch, when I was training at med school, I used to have to prepare dead people and then ten minutes later I'd tuck into a nice kebab. Horrific images don't affect what I eat personally.
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M@ Founding member
I was a little put off by that image while eating my dinner (proper food, at the table, with the family).

I think there's a much wider confusion in the BBC over what the six is for. I'm increasingly fustrated of the bizarre hand gestures by George Alagiah, by the soft news content being mixed with the proper news, by leading stories consisting of consumer news and other bizarre headline ordering, by the wandering around in the studio and by the tabloidy language used in reports and intros. The purpose of the six should be simple. It's for people just getting back from work to find out what's been happening in the world. The editorialisation should be kept for magazine programmes.

For example, an intro on a report on the fires in Greece went, "the fires in Greece rage on like an inferno. Towns are being evacuated leaving ghost towns." What's a ghost town? Just tell us what's happening without the bullsh*t, please!
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JamesWorldNews
M@ posted:
I was a little put off by that image while eating my dinner (proper food, at the table, with the family).


But M@, he has been presenting the news for years now. Surely you ought to be used to him by now!

(Said totally in jest and for fun and Shiraz-induced.......)
JO
Jonathan
HAHA that made me chuckle...
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Michael
Seems as if not even the venerable Ceefax staff are above confusing They're, Their and There:

http://www.rp-networkservices.com/tvforum/uploads/ceefax109.gif

And yes it could mean there as in at the ceremony, but surely there should be a comma?
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Spencer
M@ posted:
I was a little put off by that image while eating my dinner (proper food, at the table, with the family).

I think there's a much wider confusion in the BBC over what the six is for. I'm increasingly fustrated of the bizarre hand gestures by George Alagiah, by the soft news content being mixed with the proper news, by leading stories consisting of consumer news and other bizarre headline ordering, by the wandering around in the studio and by the tabloidy language used in reports and intros. The purpose of the six should be simple. It's for people just getting back from work to find out what's been happening in the world. The editorialisation should be kept for magazine programmes.

For example, an intro on a report on the fires in Greece went, "the fires in Greece rage on like an inferno. Towns are being evacuated leaving ghost towns." What's a ghost town? Just tell us what's happening without the bullsh*t, please!


As I'm usually driving at 6pm, I tend to listen to Radio 4's Six O'Clock News which is the antithesis of its television equivalent, and is a joy to listen to.

It's plain, simple, non-tabloid, straight news, with no fannying about. They tell you what's going on without sensationalism or gimmicks. It's actually very refreshing to receive news without the now obligatory live reports, which most of the time seem to be there for the sake of it, whether they add any value to the story or not.

After listening to the programme, I feel so much more aware of the day's events than if I watch the TV Six.

I can understand ITV's planned direction of cutting down on the gimmickery, as I really do think it distracts from the message. Something perhaps the BBC should consider as well.

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