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BBC News Cutbacks

(October 2007)

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noggin Founding member
gilsta posted:
Axing jobs and bulletins is not the way to go. As has been said there isn't even a budget cut, just a reduced increase, to suggest such a financial situation warrants these changes is barmy.


The BBC has a predicted shortfall of £2bn based on projections of income from the licence fee and the amount predicted to be spent on plans already in place for future broadcasting. Refurbishment projects, new services, talent and broadcast inflation, improvements to existing services, continuing current services etc. are all part of this predicted cost structure.

Whether the BBC cancels some new services (Local TV?), reduces programme or department budgets, reduces its headcount and thus its overheads, are all decisions the BBC has to make. Some of the projects the BBC has committed to (BH, Salford) it is unlikely to be able to cancel - and some of the outsourcing contracts have been signed for long-terms. (Siemens a prime example)

However although there isn't a budget cut in cash terms, there IS a budget cut in relative terms, as the licence fee will be growing by less than broadcast and talent inflation, as these costs grow at a higher rate than normal inflation - the amount the BBC gets for its money will be reduced in real-world terms...

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Really, the Beeb should be looking into expenditure. How many needless helicopter shots (£1,000 per hour) are used to illustrate stories,

The BBC - like most broadcasters - has an annual contract on a helicopter with a 3rd party operator. This contract includes a guaranteed number of hours of use - in return for a major cost reduction. This is MUCH cheaper than hiring a helicopter on an as-required basis as the BBC previously did, reducing the "per hour" cost - and thus there are occasions where the BBC have not used the helicopter much during one period, so they can deploy it more frequently in another. Not using it would be a waste of money - as there is a minimum number of hours the BBC have agreed to use it...

Sure - the BBC could reduce the number of hours on its contract - but the number of hours they buy is based on experience of the type of story that a helicopter provides a unique viewpoint (and in some cases the only pictures) for coverage - floods being a prime example, but also live coverage of events that would otherwise require large numbers of ground based cameras etc.

A single helicopter camera can be much more cost effective than deploying multiple trucks - especially when you are sustaining a live news channel.

Sure you can argue that a news channel is something the BBC can't afford to do (though others would argue it is a core requirement), and you can argue that a still graphic or library pictures can be used to cover breaking stories as effectively as live pictures from a helicopter (though others would argue that TV is about pictures, and News is about current events)

Whether the helicopter is always deployed wisely is a different matter editorially - but in cost terms it is quite straightforward to argue that it is more cost effective than other newsgathering methods.

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how many pointless OBs are there to irrelevant locations, how many big name correspondants and presenters are flown out to locations which have regional correspondents, how much money is thrown around by crews with extortionate shooting budgets?

OBs are cheaper than taped reports usually - and again the BBC seldom buy in these facilities. They have trucks across the UK to provide decent news coverage - are you suggesting they axe the trucks, or keep them in a garage rather than deploying them? Surely having them sitting in a car park is a waste of money...

As for big name correspondents, they are big name correspondents for a reason - they are usually better at their craft. When a big story breaks, you can't cope on a single reporter (which is what the BBC usually have in most out-of-the-way regions) filing recorded reports and live reports for all the BBC radio and TV outlets. (Other broadcasters like Sky and ITN who have only one or two outlets can...)

I can guarantee that the BBC fly people on the cheapest carriers possible... It is certainly not averse to Easyjet, Ryanair etc...

Not sure where you get the idea of "extortionate shooting budgets" - have you watched an average BBC News report? They consist of a lot of library pictures (if you see 14:9 pillarbox bars on a UK news report - guess what - it is likely to be library... The Beeb shoot almost nothing in the UK in 4:3), MiniDV stuff (thats the nice sharp stuff with the lovely colour balance, great sound and stable camera work...) and the standard BBC crew is a single operator - many of whom are also journalists (think the term is video producer) and ask the questions (as the reporter may be elsewhere or working on another programme)

Yes - the BBC do send their crew overseas - but they usually have to deliver a lot of content in return. Now that non-broadcast technology is being used for live reports - it is less common to send and engineer and uplink dish to remote locations, and instead the reporter and camera operator also edit their material and send it back via laptop store and forward systems, and do their live reports via a sort of super web-cam system. All much cheaper than sending an engineer and dish.
WW
WW Update
Markymark posted:

Valid points, however in my experience many more ex pats and holiday makers would watch BBC World if it was 'News 24'. I suspect they'd actually get just as many, if not more viewers overall doing that, than the present arrangement.


BBC World is not aimed at British expats and holidaymakers -- they represent only a tiny segment of the channel's audience -- but rather at a wide range of English-speaking viewers around the world. Replacing BBC World with BBC News 24 would make as little sense as, say, replacing CNN International with CNN (USA) around the world.
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Dog
The fanatics on here just don't see the big picture.

Come next April, News 24 will be coming from N6, which is where the 1/6/10 come from now. So it won't just the the One o Clock News that's 'cut', but the 6 and 10 aswell.
MO
Moz
Dog posted:
The fanatics on here just don't see the big picture.

Come next April, News 24 will be coming from N6, which is where the 1/6/10 come from now. So it won't just the the One o Clock News that's 'cut', but the 6 and 10 aswell.


I'd rather that didn't happen, but if it must be done it'd be better if they stopped the clumsiness of the BBC One/News 24 confusion, i.e. the end of bulletin "on News 24 now X, while here on BBC One Y".

They should just do it like BBC One is dipping into 24 for 30 minutes. It'd start on BBC One with them saying something like, "Now on BBC One we go over to the studios of BBC News 24* for the Six O'Clock News." It'd end with the presenters handing over to the weather with no goodbyes, no closing titles and no mention of regional news (which would just come on after on BBC One like a proper separate programme). Much neater that way for both channels.

(*could even just be called BBC News)
IT
itsrobert Founding member
Moz posted:
Dog posted:
The fanatics on here just don't see the big picture.

Come next April, News 24 will be coming from N6, which is where the 1/6/10 come from now. So it won't just the the One o Clock News that's 'cut', but the 6 and 10 aswell.


I'd rather that didn't happen, but if it must be done it'd be better if they stopped the clumsiness of the BBC One/News 24 confusion, i.e. the end of bulletin "on News 24 now X, while here on BBC One Y".

They should just do it like BBC One is dipping into 24 for 30 minutes. It'd start on BBC One with them saying something like, "Now on BBC One we go over to the studios of BBC News 24* for the Six O'Clock News." It'd end with the presenters handing over to the weather with no goodbyes, no closing titles and no mention of regional news (which would just come on after on BBC One like a proper separate programme). Much neater that way for both channels.

(*could even just be called BBC News)


That's a horrendous suggestion. "Dipping" into News 24 would be dreadful. BBC One ought to be the priority. If anything, it should be News 24 producing a bulletin for BBC One and halting their own rolling coverage (as wrong as that is).
SP
Spencer
Dog posted:
Come next April, News 24 will be coming from N6, which is where the 1/6/10 come from now.


Has that definitely been confirmed?
MA
Markymark
WW Update posted:


BBC World is not aimed at British expats and holidaymakers -- they represent only a tiny segment of the channel's audience -- but rather at a wide range of English-speaking viewers around the world. Replacing BBC World with BBC News 24 would make as little sense as, say, replacing CNN International with CNN (USA) around the world.


Just how large is BBC World's audience ? Are there any figures published ?
MO
Moz
itsrobert posted:
That's a horrendous suggestion. "Dipping" into News 24 would be dreadful. BBC One ought to be the priority. If anything, it should be News 24 producing a bulletin for BBC One and halting their own rolling coverage (as wrong as that is).

Why should BBC One be priority? It's news, so it makes sense that the news should be provided by what is the news channel.

Anyway the BBC have said that 24 takes priority over the 1/6/10.
IT
itsrobert Founding member
Moz posted:
itsrobert posted:
That's a horrendous suggestion. "Dipping" into News 24 would be dreadful. BBC One ought to be the priority. If anything, it should be News 24 producing a bulletin for BBC One and halting their own rolling coverage (as wrong as that is).

Why should BBC One be priority? It's news, so it makes sense that the news should be provided by what is the news channel.

Anyway the BBC have said that 24 takes priority over the 1/6/10.


Yes, I agree that they could get away with News 24 providing the news for BBC One. However, I disagree that they should just dip into News 24 in its current state. If they are going to do that, then the rolling nature of News 24 must stop during BBC One time and a proper bulletin should be produced. They would have to give up their commitment to rolling with breaking news if they are going to provide bulletins for BBC One.
DV
DVB Cornwall
I really don't see any real demand for the BBC ONE 90 seconds 'nonsense', perhaps this should be the first casualty of these cutbacks.
CH
chris
DVB Cornwall posted:
I really don't see any real demand for the BBC ONE 90 seconds 'nonsense', perhaps this should be the first casualty of these cutbacks.


Before it's even started? Laughing

Why do the BBC need to make cutbacks anyway? Where is all this saved money going to go?
MO
Moz
itsrobert posted:
Moz posted:
itsrobert posted:
That's a horrendous suggestion. "Dipping" into News 24 would be dreadful. BBC One ought to be the priority. If anything, it should be News 24 producing a bulletin for BBC One and halting their own rolling coverage (as wrong as that is).

Why should BBC One be priority? It's news, so it makes sense that the news should be provided by what is the news channel.

Anyway the BBC have said that 24 takes priority over the 1/6/10.


Yes, I agree that they could get away with News 24 providing the news for BBC One. However, I disagree that they should just dip into News 24 in its current state. If they are going to do that, then the rolling nature of News 24 must stop during BBC One time and a proper bulletin should be produced. They would have to give up their commitment to rolling with breaking news if they are going to provide bulletins for BBC One.

They do that now. Admittedly they can break away but they dont do that often.

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