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BBC News 24 to drop the 24? (p3) (June 2006)

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CH
chris
Moz posted:
Work of Artifice posted:
In a post-analogue UK, having BBC national/international news bulletins on BBC One will become "pointless"

No it won't.


It will become pointless in the BBC's point of view, because it will take up more schedule time. But the public still like the bullitins on BBC ONE; much of the general public aren't interested in picking and choosing what they watch, when they want to watch it, they like a routine. Plus, these bullitins have much better analysis than NEWS 24 (oh sorry - took out the brand there Laughing "Naughty me!" BBC NEWS 24).

Moz posted:
It's a legal requirement that BBC One carries news


It's only a legal requirement because not everybody has a digital box to recieve BBC NEWS 24. Once everyone has one, people will be able to keep up to date with the news on NEWS 24.
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Stuart
Newsreader posted:
NerdBoy posted:
I think they might as well drop the bulletin requirement on BBC One after the digital switch over, would give a bit of time for a sports programme or something


Why not have a BBC Sport channel instead? Or two or more. A dedicated home for sports programming instead of disrupting the schedules everytime there is a sporting event. If this is after the digital switchover there would be no problem for present anologue viewers.


I agree that after digital switchover there will be no reason to disrupt the main channels with sporting events or major breaking news. There should be a BBC Sport Channel.

I don't agree with dropping the "24" from BBC News. It's such a recognisable brand now, and people know you're talking about the channel rather than a BBC One bulletin when you use the name.
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all new Phil
Why oh why is it such a big thing for BBC News 24 to have a good "brand"? It has no need to try to compete with any rivals as it is funded by the license fee, they should concentrate on providing the best quality journalism possible than trying to outdo Sky News in the style stakes.

And why the talk of grey graphics? That's hardly consistent.
PE
Pete Founding member
all new Phil posted:
And why the talk of grey graphics? That's hardly consistent.


they've got grey and deep red on BBC1 now.
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dosxuk
I think the one, six and ten will continue for at least a few years after digital switchover, as they are some of the flagship programming of the entire BBC. They've also been there so long, that they are part of the channel. Just because people can switch over to news 24 any time they want doesn't mean they will. My 90 year old grandmother (if she's still around then) will probably be shouting at the TV "where's the news?" if she has BBC1 on at 6 and it shows something else, just because they've turned off some transmitters.

I think we will loose all the news updates throughout the rest of the schedule, possibly even breakfast, but I think the main three bulleitins will be here for a while yet.
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LONDON
dosxuk posted:
I think the one, six and ten will continue for at least a few years after digital switchover, as they are some of the flagship programming of the entire BBC. They've also been there so long, that they are part of the channel. Just because people can switch over to news 24 any time they want doesn't mean they will. My 90 year old grandmother (if she's still around then) will probably be shouting at the TV "where's the news?" if she has BBC1 on at 6 and it shows something else, just because they've turned off some transmitters.

I think we will loose all the news updates throughout the rest of the schedule, possibly even breakfast, but I think the main three bulleitins will be here for a while yet.


Of course the 1, 6 & 10 will continue, the main reason is because they are a different type of news bulletin from those on the news channels. For example news channels can drop all the stories in an entire hour and just role with breaking news, where as the purpose of the 1, 6 & 10 is to inform the viewer of the days events. The bulletins existence will continue atleast to the next charter renewal in 2016, but i expect the bulletins to continue beyond that point.

An intresting point is that now most people now have access to multi channel television, yet the main bulletins still attract a healthy audience, because of the type of bulletins they are, providing a summary of the days events within a half hour time frame, therefor there is a demand for the existence of the nationals.
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baoren
Yes, I dont like it when main channels simulcast news from a news channel. Im often lost. The ATV bulletins recap the day's news from the start till the end or the latest development.
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chris
dosxuk posted:
I think the one, six and ten will continue for at least a few years after digital switchover.


Perhaps one of the bullitins will be dropped, as there will be no need for such constant bullitins. Perhaps the one could be dropped as it doesn't get as many viewers?

Also, after the digital switchover, will the digital channels, such as BBC NEWS 24, be able to broadcast regional programmes?
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Sascha
Charlie Wells posted:
And in todays' Media Guardian...
http://media.guardian.co.uk/broadcast/story/0,,1794299,00.html

Quote:
BBC to create single news brand

Leigh Holmwood
Monday June 12, 2006

The BBC is looking to rebrand all its domestic news outlets, including its News 24 channel, under the BBC News name.

News 24 and the BBC News website will take the first step towards the change by adopting the same updated maroon and grey colour scheme given to the main BBC1 news bulletins at the beginning of May.

One BBC news source said plans to "tweak" the website had already been signed off with the new look set to go live soon.

It is also thought News 24 will be given a new on-air look within the next few months.

"News 24 will have a rejig to bring it into line [with the rest of BBC news] while the website will also have a little tweak to bring the whole brand together," the source said.

"The news website used to be called BBC News Online but it is just known as BBC News now. The whole brand will just be known as BBC News."

In the longer term, the News 24 name is expected to be dropped and the channel retitled BBC News as part of a move to create a uniform brand across all the corporation's output on TV, radio and online.

The BBC director general, Mark Thompson, is understood to have let slip in a recent meeting with senior managers that News 24 would be renamed BBC News as part of the move to create a uniform brand.

However, it may be more than a year before the change is fully implemented, as BBC News executives work through the practical implications arising from Mr Thompson's Creative Future plan for the corporation's output to be available "any time, any place, anywhere" - the so-called "Martini media" strategy.

The BBC's domestic rolling news channel has been branded News 24 since it launched in November 1997.

News 24 initially attracted criticism for being inferior in quality to the BBC's established TV news bulletins.

But it has improved markedly in the past few years and won the Royal Television Society news channel of the year award this year, breaking arch rival Sky News' domination of the category.

A BBC spokeswoman said: "We are looking at branding in general terms, but there is nothing imminent."


And all thanks to the unique way in which they're funded. By intimidation, lies and stealth.
PE
Pete Founding member
Sascha posted:
And all thanks to the unique way in which they're funded. By intimidation, lies and stealth.


I like how you've stealthily slipped that into this thread just because you lost the arguemnt in the other one
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Sascha
I've just received a warning from the moderators about my comment above. Is this website affiliated with the BBC or is it run by biased BBC sympathsisers? So much for freedom of expression.

I didn't realise it was now a civil offence to be against the BBC and it's wholly unfair way of funding.

Just a small point regarding the licence fee - at current levels of year-on-year inflation increases in the fee (2.4% above inflation), the licence fee will be around £200 for every household in the country in 10 years time.

The only BBC service I use is their website, and £131.00 a year for that privillage is a total rip off.
CW
Charlie Wells Moderator
I'm personnaly neither pro or anti-BBC, I just get fed up of thread hi-jacking. Use http://www.tvforum.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?t=21075&start=24 if you must, as it's connected to TV licences, this one isn't. I'm sure you've been here under another username in the past, you sound familiar.

Anyway back to BBC News... I suspect the News 24 studio may see some of the bright whites change to light greys as they're following the national news look. I personally don't see the point of renaming BBC News 24, currently it's still parts of the 'BBC News' brand it just has a 24 at the end as it runs for 24 hours.

EDIT: I have since split the bulk of the TV Licence stuff and moved it accross into " The BBC World Cup Broadband trap!" thread http://www.tvforum.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?t=21075

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