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BBC News 24 to drop the 24? (p3) (June 2006)

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MO
Moz
LONDON posted:
I disagree with this. Your post Moz makes it sound like BBC 1 simulcast BBC News, despite there being different programmeing. For example at the weekends currently News 24 carries full 30 to 60 minute bulletins compared to BBC 1's 5 to 15 minute bulletins. Although simulcasting of these bulletins took place when BBC 1 was moving studio, it seems very disruptive to the flow of BBC News 24. In the past few months the BBC have said that they have a commitment to Breaking News, if they have to stay with the same BBC News bulltin they will not be able to carry the breaking News, possibly this was one of the downfalls of the itv News Channel. Likewise the audience on BBC 1 do not want to roll with breaking news for 15 minutes while BBC 1 dip in, but instead want a full comprehensive look at the days events. Yes there is simulcasing during the week of Breakfast, the 1, 6 & 10, but News 24 breaks away from these bulletins when there is breaking news either during or just before they go on air.
Therefore i think that it is likely that the current arrangement will continue with two seperate studios, with BBC News simulcasting some of the BBC 1 bulletins, pulling away when they need to.

I can see it moving towards all BBC One bulletins being produced by what is now News 24 - i.e. one BBC News, rather than separate BBC One bulletins, only going their separate ways during major breaking news.

LONDON posted:
My question with the changes, will BBC News 24 get a new set when it drops the 24 brand, or will the current one be adapted. I do think that the channel could benefit from the use of a video wall, but it is also important to maintain a live Newsroom view, giving the viewer the chance to see into the news behind the presenters.

I actually am starting to think that they should use the same newswall that's in N6 and whatever the Newsnight studio is on News 24. I don't see the importance of seeing the actual newsroom through a window - yes it needs to be close to the studio to get news to them, but do we actually have to see the real newsroom.

I'd build a flat newswall the length of the News 24 set (from the left hand pod to the right hand screen) which could have the newroom projected onto it most of the time (the real newsroom would still be just behind the screens) but with the ability to use graphics like they are doing so effectively in the new sets.
SE
seamus
I hope they keep the studio, because the current set in my opinion is absolutly brilliant. It still looks modern and fresh, and Even If they change it, I would hope to keep the perspex, and would hate if they were standing up for it, besides sport.
RO
Ronant
This seems silly to me - you have to differentiate between all the different services, you can't just call lots of different services the same thing - it gets a bit confusing.

If News 24 is renamed BBC News it will inevitably be called 'The BBC News channel' - just like ITV News and CBBC because you need people to know what you're talking about. It all seems a bit daft to me.
MO
Moz
Ronant posted:
This seems silly to me - you have to differentiate between all the different services, you can't just call lots of different services the same thing - it gets a bit confusing.

If News 24 is renamed BBC News it will inevitably be called 'The BBC News channel' - just like ITV News and CBBC because you need people to know what you're talking about. It all seems a bit daft to me.

Sky News is just called Sky News even though they provide news programmes for five.
SP
Spencer
Moz posted:
[I actually am starting to think that they should use the same newswall that's in N6 and whatever the Newsnight studio is on News 24. I don't see the importance of seeing the actual newsroom through a window - yes it needs to be close to the studio to get news to them, but do we actually have to see the real newsroom.

I'd build a flat newswall the length of the News 24 set (from the left hand pod to the right hand screen) which could have the newroom projected onto it most of the time (the real newsroom would still be just behind the screens) but with the ability to use graphics like they are doing so effectively in the new sets.


Personally I think a newsroom background makes a rolling news channel seem a bit more bustling and active, and adds to the air of urgency. I found the lack of a newsroom background made the ITV News channel seem so empty and lonely.

I'm also not convinced a projected newsroom background would have the same effect as actually being there.
SP
Spencer
Moz posted:
Ronant posted:
This seems silly to me - you have to differentiate between all the different services, you can't just call lots of different services the same thing - it gets a bit confusing.

If News 24 is renamed BBC News it will inevitably be called 'The BBC News channel' - just like ITV News and CBBC because you need people to know what you're talking about. It all seems a bit daft to me.

Sky News is just called Sky News even though they provide news programmes for five.


But it's called 'five news' not Sky News.
MD
mdtauk
they could use the videowall, and project a live view of the newsroom on it, and overlay graphics on that...
MO
Moz
Spencer For Hire posted:
Moz posted:
Ronant posted:
This seems silly to me - you have to differentiate between all the different services, you can't just call lots of different services the same thing - it gets a bit confusing.

If News 24 is renamed BBC News it will inevitably be called 'The BBC News channel' - just like ITV News and CBBC because you need people to know what you're talking about. It all seems a bit daft to me.

Sky News is just called Sky News even though they provide news programmes for five.


But it's called 'five news' not Sky News.

Likewise the 'Six O'Clock News' isn't called BBC News.
SP
Spencer
Moz posted:
Spencer For Hire posted:
Moz posted:
Ronant posted:
This seems silly to me - you have to differentiate between all the different services, you can't just call lots of different services the same thing - it gets a bit confusing.

If News 24 is renamed BBC News it will inevitably be called 'The BBC News channel' - just like ITV News and CBBC because you need people to know what you're talking about. It all seems a bit daft to me.

Sky News is just called Sky News even though they provide news programmes for five.


But it's called 'five news' not Sky News.

Likewise the 'Six O'Clock News' isn't called BBC News.


Actually most listings actually do just refer to it as 'BBC News'.

Either way, it carries full BBC News branding, whereas five news carries no mention of Sky News other than on the endcap.
DU
Dunedin
I can't see them dropping the studio just yet- it was part of a £1m revamp that would have been pencilled in to last around 4 years (with minor refreshes e.g. this promised gfx update).

I don't see the problem with "BBC News"- it fits in with the portfolio of BBC Channels :
BBC One
BBC Two
BBC News
etc. etc.

And as for problems introducing the channel as the 'BBC News channel' Pfft.

It's just a case of saying "welcome to BBC News...." just like Sky News (and BBC World) do.
MO
Moz
But the problem I think we are all agreed on is in referring to a separate channel called BBC News, rather than branding. To me it's fine, just that we're not used to it. BBC One, BBC Two, BBC Three, BBC Four, BBC News - it flows better. Perhaps they should call the others BBC Kids and BBC Tots?

I think it'd be OK for them to call the BBC One programmes Breakfast, One O'Clock News, Six O'Clock News, and Ten O'Clock News with the channel being called BBC News.

"That's all from the Six O'Clock News, there's continuing coverage on BBC News or what's happening where you are on BBC One..."

Or they could call the BBC One programmes The One, The Six and The Ten...

"That's all from The Six, there's continuing coverage on BBC News or what's happening where you are on BBC One..."
AS
Asa Admin
Seems ridiculous to me. If they want everything to be uniform, fine but just calling the news channel "BBC News"? Why? The N24 identity is enjoying an increasing better reputation all the time so dumping it seems daft. It still has "BBC News" in the title after all.

And even if they don't go down the "...on the BBC News channel" route, "continuing coverage on BBC News" is just as vague! What do they mean? BBC News in general? The online site? The channel formally known as N24?

How would BBC One announcers show and announce a programme exclusively to be shown on 'the BBC News channel'?

I'm all for uniformity but dumping a well recognised brand just seems unnecessary.

As to radio, is Five Live suddenly going to be called "BBC News"? Radio 1 Newsbeat renamed? It'll be interesting to see far this generic idea is going to be taken.

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