R2
The point being that when it happens anywhere else it does not appear on the national news channel. Locally someone was killed by a train hitting their vehicle on a level crossing - no mention on the national news. Yesterday a train hit an abandoned van on the Sheffield to Hull line no live cameras there.
London is our capital city. It's more important than all the others. More people live there. It's easier to get cameras there. Boris is mayor. Nobody cares about Hull...
Yes, thats why.
obviously londoners are more important, the rest of us are just comonners ie anyone out of the M25 zone.
Definitely. London (and to a lesser extent the South) always prevails over everywhere else, especially the North.
Think of the floods, there was some coverage for a day or two in Sheffield but as soon as the South got flood warnings, that soon took precedence. I wish news could be a bit more balanced across the country.
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There has been a fatality with serious injuries - this is a major incident as described by the police and this doesn't happen everyday.
The point being that when it happens anywhere else it does not appear on the national news channel. Locally someone was killed by a train hitting their vehicle on a level crossing - no mention on the national news. Yesterday a train hit an abandoned van on the Sheffield to Hull line no live cameras there.
London is our capital city. It's more important than all the others. More people live there. It's easier to get cameras there. Boris is mayor. Nobody cares about Hull...
Yes, thats why.
obviously londoners are more important, the rest of us are just comonners ie anyone out of the M25 zone.
Definitely. London (and to a lesser extent the South) always prevails over everywhere else, especially the North.
Think of the floods, there was some coverage for a day or two in Sheffield but as soon as the South got flood warnings, that soon took precedence. I wish news could be a bit more balanced across the country.
JW
The wonderful Peter Sissons in action - and literally - at the end of this clip! (again).
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=I0f8XfsINUA
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=I0f8XfsINUA
BB
Utter balls. I'm not disputing that British news is "London-centric" - but then show me a nation on Earth that doesn't prioritise its capital city in its news agendas - but I refuse to accept that kind of nonsense about the floods.
There were days upon days of coverage from not only Sheffield, but Tewkesbury, Toll Bar, Hull, Stratford-upon-Avon and Evesham - and those are just the locations that I remember off the top of my head. The coverage was extremely comprehensive from those locations - and it wasn't just "for a day or two". Tewkesbury in particular received very extensive coverage because, if I recall correctly, there were major issues with water supplies for quite some time.
Last time I checked, none of those locations was in or around London.
By contrast, the "floods" in London last barely a couple of days - there was literally nothing to report after around 36 hours of 'dramatic' photos sent in by viewers, so the idea that London got more dedicated or comprehensive coverage of the summer flooding compared with the rest of the country is, to reiterate, utter balls.
r2ro posted:
Think of the floods, there was some coverage for a day or two in Sheffield but as soon as the South got flood warnings, that soon took precedence.
Utter balls. I'm not disputing that British news is "London-centric" - but then show me a nation on Earth that doesn't prioritise its capital city in its news agendas - but I refuse to accept that kind of nonsense about the floods.
There were days upon days of coverage from not only Sheffield, but Tewkesbury, Toll Bar, Hull, Stratford-upon-Avon and Evesham - and those are just the locations that I remember off the top of my head. The coverage was extremely comprehensive from those locations - and it wasn't just "for a day or two". Tewkesbury in particular received very extensive coverage because, if I recall correctly, there were major issues with water supplies for quite some time.
Last time I checked, none of those locations was in or around London.
By contrast, the "floods" in London last barely a couple of days - there was literally nothing to report after around 36 hours of 'dramatic' photos sent in by viewers, so the idea that London got more dedicated or comprehensive coverage of the summer flooding compared with the rest of the country is, to reiterate, utter balls.
R2
Utter balls. I'm not disputing that British news is "London-centric" - but then show me a nation on Earth that doesn't prioritise its capital city in its news agendas - but I refuse to accept that kind of nonsense about the floods.
There were days upon days of coverage from not only Sheffield, but Tewkesbury, Toll Bar, Hull, Stratford-upon-Avon and Evesham - and those are just the locations that I remember off the top of my head. The coverage was extremely comprehensive from those locations - and it wasn't just "for a day or two". Tewkesbury in particular received very extensive coverage because, if I recall correctly, there were major issues with water supplies for quite some time.
Last time I checked, none of those locations was in or around London.
By contrast, the "floods" in London last barely a couple of days - there was literally nothing to report after around 36 hours of 'dramatic' photos sent in by viewers, so the idea that London got more dedicated or comprehensive coverage of the summer flooding compared with the rest of the country is, to reiterate, utter balls.
I should have said that the South took priority as opposed to London itself. Fair enough Sheffield and the surrounding did get comprehensive coverage on the day of the floods and the day after, but then soon this was shunted aside to make way for coverage of what was happening in the South (Stratford springs to mind).
As a general note, it's understandable that the capital is going to take precedence but really I get the feeling that news is too orientated around London. There's just as much news elsewhere in the country and is just as easy to obtain it with all the local crews and journalists around the country. Simply because the main newsroom is based in London should be irrelevant when covering national news.
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r2ro posted:
Think of the floods, there was some coverage for a day or two in Sheffield but as soon as the South got flood warnings, that soon took precedence.
Utter balls. I'm not disputing that British news is "London-centric" - but then show me a nation on Earth that doesn't prioritise its capital city in its news agendas - but I refuse to accept that kind of nonsense about the floods.
There were days upon days of coverage from not only Sheffield, but Tewkesbury, Toll Bar, Hull, Stratford-upon-Avon and Evesham - and those are just the locations that I remember off the top of my head. The coverage was extremely comprehensive from those locations - and it wasn't just "for a day or two". Tewkesbury in particular received very extensive coverage because, if I recall correctly, there were major issues with water supplies for quite some time.
Last time I checked, none of those locations was in or around London.
By contrast, the "floods" in London last barely a couple of days - there was literally nothing to report after around 36 hours of 'dramatic' photos sent in by viewers, so the idea that London got more dedicated or comprehensive coverage of the summer flooding compared with the rest of the country is, to reiterate, utter balls.
I should have said that the South took priority as opposed to London itself. Fair enough Sheffield and the surrounding did get comprehensive coverage on the day of the floods and the day after, but then soon this was shunted aside to make way for coverage of what was happening in the South (Stratford springs to mind).
As a general note, it's understandable that the capital is going to take precedence but really I get the feeling that news is too orientated around London. There's just as much news elsewhere in the country and is just as easy to obtain it with all the local crews and journalists around the country. Simply because the main newsroom is based in London should be irrelevant when covering national news.
MD
The problem with being less London centric is...
Political News - Politicians and the Government are in London (except for local election coverage);
Business News - The financial industries are in London, as is the BoE, and the Treasury;
Celebrity News - Most celebrities live or work in the cities of which, London is the biggest and most popular;
The other news stories are
International - which aren't London based;
Human Interest - which will go to wherever the people live
Crime - again wherever the crime took place
Scientific - once again wherever the labs/scientists are
On the whole the national news is a little London biased, but not without a necessity. Areas like Scotland, Wales, and Northern Ireland do get the raw end of the deal however, and perhaps a short opt out of the network national news may be needed, along with separate regions for north and south scotland / wales / northern ireland. An opt out after the 15min sting perhaps for the 6 and the 10... This would allow them to cover the political assembly/devolutions and their own Health and Crime stories more.
r2ro posted:
I should have said that the South took priority as opposed to London itself. Fair enough Sheffield and the surrounding did get comprehensive coverage on the day of the floods and the day after, but then soon this was shunted aside to make way for coverage of what was happening in the South (Stratford springs to mind).
As a general note, it's understandable that the capital is going to take precedence but really I get the feeling that news is too orientated around London. There's just as much news elsewhere in the country and is just as easy to obtain it with all the local crews and journalists around the country. Simply because the main newsroom is based in London should be irrelevant when covering national news.
As a general note, it's understandable that the capital is going to take precedence but really I get the feeling that news is too orientated around London. There's just as much news elsewhere in the country and is just as easy to obtain it with all the local crews and journalists around the country. Simply because the main newsroom is based in London should be irrelevant when covering national news.
The problem with being less London centric is...
Political News - Politicians and the Government are in London (except for local election coverage);
Business News - The financial industries are in London, as is the BoE, and the Treasury;
Celebrity News - Most celebrities live or work in the cities of which, London is the biggest and most popular;
The other news stories are
International - which aren't London based;
Human Interest - which will go to wherever the people live
Crime - again wherever the crime took place
Scientific - once again wherever the labs/scientists are
On the whole the national news is a little London biased, but not without a necessity. Areas like Scotland, Wales, and Northern Ireland do get the raw end of the deal however, and perhaps a short opt out of the network national news may be needed, along with separate regions for north and south scotland / wales / northern ireland. An opt out after the 15min sting perhaps for the 6 and the 10... This would allow them to cover the political assembly/devolutions and their own Health and Crime stories more.
BB
Right... that's the way that news reporting works - you report on things as they happen. Given that the flooding in the South happened after the flooding in the North, when would you have preferred that they report on the Southern flooding?
News items always lose priority as time passes after the immediate event. There's always something to report on in the aftermath, but that becomes the purview of local news, rather than national news. I honestly don't see anything reasonable in your negative connotations towards the later flooding in the South "displacing" the earlier flooding in the North on news broadcasts.
Right, but as pointed out before, London is the capital of England, and the administrative centre for the United Kingdom. It's the largest economic centre in the country, with the greatest population, and much of what happens there either affects or is otherwise of interest to the rest of the country.
This is how it works in pretty much every country. The capital gets the main focus because... it's the capital.
I'm sure there are elements of "well, it's near HQ, so let's do that instead" - I understand that Reporting Scotland is very Glasgow-centric, for example. But that's just a reality of the industry; I'd suggest that only some of the international news channels manage to master the balance between global news and news from the home nation.
r2ro posted:
Fair enough Sheffield and the surrounding did get comprehensive coverage on the day of the floods and the day after, but then soon this was shunted aside to make way for coverage of what was happening in the South (Stratford springs to mind).
Right... that's the way that news reporting works - you report on things as they happen. Given that the flooding in the South happened after the flooding in the North, when would you have preferred that they report on the Southern flooding?
News items always lose priority as time passes after the immediate event. There's always something to report on in the aftermath, but that becomes the purview of local news, rather than national news. I honestly don't see anything reasonable in your negative connotations towards the later flooding in the South "displacing" the earlier flooding in the North on news broadcasts.
r2ro posted:
As a general note, it's understandable that the capital is going to take precedence but really I get the feeling that news is too orientated around London. There's just as much news elsewhere in the country and is just as easy to obtain it with all the local crews and journalists around the country. Simply because the main newsroom is based in London should be irrelevant when covering national news.
Right, but as pointed out before, London is the capital of England, and the administrative centre for the United Kingdom. It's the largest economic centre in the country, with the greatest population, and much of what happens there either affects or is otherwise of interest to the rest of the country.
This is how it works in pretty much every country. The capital gets the main focus because... it's the capital.
I'm sure there are elements of "well, it's near HQ, so let's do that instead" - I understand that Reporting Scotland is very Glasgow-centric, for example. But that's just a reality of the industry; I'd suggest that only some of the international news channels manage to master the balance between global news and news from the home nation.
MO
Human Interest - which will go to wherever the people live
Human interest stories shouldn't be on the news in my opinion.
The problem with accusations of things being London-centric is where does it end. They provide a news service for Wales called Wales Today, but in these parts people call it Cardiff Today, complaining it's too South Wales biased. If they listened to these complaints and did things from Wrexham, then people from Rhosllanerchrugog would complain it was too Wrexham-centric etc, etc.
If you want local news, go to your local shop and have a chat!
martinDTanderson posted:
Human Interest - which will go to wherever the people live
Human interest stories shouldn't be on the news in my opinion.
martinDTanderson posted:
On the whole the national news is a little London biased.
The problem with accusations of things being London-centric is where does it end. They provide a news service for Wales called Wales Today, but in these parts people call it Cardiff Today, complaining it's too South Wales biased. If they listened to these complaints and did things from Wrexham, then people from Rhosllanerchrugog would complain it was too Wrexham-centric etc, etc.
If you want local news, go to your local shop and have a chat!
MO
Oh, forgot to mention the hilarious moment on the NC last night when Fiona Trott (I think) was in a pub in Manchester.
She was talking to Chris Eakin when John Terry missed his peg and, of course the pub erupted. Poor lass thought that they'd won and screamed into the microphone "Manchester United have won the Champions League!!!"
Cut to Chris Eakin shaking his head saying, "No they haven't. It's not her fault! Fiona, they haven't won, they've just equalised."
That's what happens when you send a woman to report on footy.
She was talking to Chris Eakin when John Terry missed his peg and, of course the pub erupted. Poor lass thought that they'd won and screamed into the microphone "Manchester United have won the Champions League!!!"
Cut to Chris Eakin shaking his head saying, "No they haven't. It's not her fault! Fiona, they haven't won, they've just equalised."
That's what happens when you send a woman to report on footy.
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