BBC News Channel: Presentation

That's a good question. I don't know what actually goes on but my best guess is that arrangements might be in place so that BBC's domestic operations might technically be customers of BBC Worldwide (BBC's commercial arm). If that is what goes on, BBC's domestic services pays (using licence fee money) BBC Worldwide to use the resources of the latter. In this case, I would think staff who are stationed abroad are on the latter's payroll.

Yes, that's exactly what I'm saying. Over a given length of time there are far more mistakes (the list could be practically endless) on the NC than on the National bulletins. They may be dull in your opinion, but they are technically more professional due to the fact they are planned and rehearsed. The NC is a rolling news channel and anything can happen. This seems obvious to me, Moz - I can't understand why you can't grasp the idea that more thought has to go into the BBC1 bulletins.

Nice farewell from Chris just then.

Gosh, I think it is a valid point to debate even though I have no strong opinion. There are valid points from both sides but it depends on what the jobs entail. Editorially, I did not think network bulletin presenters where as involved as American network anchors yet nor did I think that presenters plonked their rear ends in front of a camera to address the nation who do nothing else. My understanding it is somewhere in between.

Personally, I think salaries are none of my business (as is mine to them) yet I think duties and what presenters do is a valid area of discussion here. Most companies are asking their staff to do more for the same money and I cannot see why the BBC should be exempt from this approach.

Moira Stuart was allegedly dumped for not being a journalist and the BBC have made much noise about their presenters being journalists and involved in programmes and output decisions and I can see the value of this. However, there is nothing wrong with having George, Huw, Sophie etc involved in other BBC News output throughout the working day. Sophie is the only one who is linked with one programme but she regularly presents the One and Six bulletins as does Fiona when she is on, so they are hardly lazy.

Sophie was involved in Watchdog Daily and Fiona does AR and Huw is also involved in BBC Wales output from what I can gather so they turn their hands to various things folks. I actually think that they find this half the appeal of doing what they do?

Going forward I would hope there is scope for presenters to be involved in various output; however, I do not think it silly or even naïve to make comment about this.

As for graphics, titles, music and style of the channel and bulletins - I doubt there will be much change tomorrow. Moving to a new home is a challenge enough and when Sky News did all this at once it did not do them any favours. If there is to be a radical change to the look of BBC New, I'd imagine this will be in years to come and not months. They are doing well in ratings so if it ain't broke...

Aaaarggh!!!!!!!!! Because they are on a SALARY! That's what a salary is - you have a contract to work for an organisation in return for an agreed salary and annual leave entitlement. If the BBC don't want you to work on a Friday then you'll still get your monthly salary because you're a member of staff. It would be a totally different case for a freelancer as they are paid for the hours they work.

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what started off as an entertaining discussion has now been beaten to death with the salary nonsense. I've lost the will to live unless you lot stay on topic of the change over etc

I did not know where to put this post but I put it here.

Earlier on BBC 3 it was the last 60seconds from TVC. They mentioned it and at the end had a shot of TVC that zoom out to the beat with the 60 seconds logo over lapping. I thought it was a nice little touch.

Hope I am not repeating someone here with this post.

Yeah that is daft (Sorry DanielK cannot get your point with this one at all) and was not even an area I covered in my last post a few moments ago.

Hey let us just sit back and try to look forward in a nice way to tomorrow at 1pm. I for one hope there are no muck ups for them.

Night all - tomorrow is a big day

The graphics has crashed on BBC News channel over newsday, fixed now at 1:02

Oh sugar - hope the Grelims are sorted!

Should this not be in the presenters & rotas thread? I know this thread will be locked later anyway, but... well, you know.

I'm also off - will be up at 8:30 to see the last Breakfast to NC TVC handover - and to see Mr McCoy and co lead in to NBH later today.

BTW: RIP Nighttime Barco backdrop - we won't see that on screen again.

Good night will set the PVR to record all this and view it tomorrow night.