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StephenCrosby246
Watched newswatch earlier on NC and someone emailed in saying that the red lamp shaded lights looked like Christmas bauble baubles but the presented corrected him/her by saying that they are lighting. Why use this lighting and where is it aimed at
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Moz
Moz posted:
The last BBC News at Five O'Clock bulletin from Television centre (complete with Film 24).


The Film Review, as it'll now be called, really shows off what they can do in NBH with the ability to change colours in the set and put different backgrounds on the screens, makes it feel like a separate programme all of its own.

Presume that's from Studio E? Presumably sat at screens without the newsroom backdrop?


Think it's C. Not too long now and all will be revealed... Smile

Yes sorry, of course it's C. The 5 will be in C every day as E is rehearsing for the 6.
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harshy Founding member
Yes we've seen with World they can adopt the sets to the colour of the shows such as orange for Impact and dark blue for Newsnight, Focus on Africas lighting is amazing, its gonna be great whilst we are sad to see the historic TVC go, News Channel will benefit in presentation terms, something it hasn't had since 2009 imho.
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SomeRandomStuff
Yes we've seen with World they can adopt the sets to the colour of the shows such as orange for Impact and dark blue for Newsnight, Focus on Africas lighting is amazing, its gonna be great whilst we are sad to see the historic TVC go, News Channel will benefit in presentation terms, something it hasn't had since 2009 imho.

Its unfortunate that their lack of resources hasnt allowed them to develop in a similar way to how BBC World News has in the last five years. I cant help thinking that following the honeymoon period after this move they will revert back to the same monotonous 'two shrubs behind a desk' formula that has plagued the channel for the better part of a decade.

Watched newswatch earlier on NC and someone emailed in saying that the red lamp shaded lights looked like Christmas bauble baubles but the presented corrected him/her by saying that they are lighting. Why use this lighting and where is it aimed at

Because red lighty-up balls look nice.

Anymore questions?
Last edited by SomeRandomStuff on 16 March 2013 11:03pm
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Worzel
When it comes to the graphics from Monday, how will the logo, clock and ticker look


The ticker will be Similar to BBC WN's I believe.


I know this isn't the mocks forum (and what I've made isn't a mock - as I didn't have the helvetica font and its something I've knocked up in a hurry), but I think the ticker will probably look something like this (I.e. the clock etc).

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My only question would be how the ticker would display Breaking News. Normally the ticker would turn red from grey, but if the ticker is already red - a different colour may well get used.
Last edited by Worzel on 16 March 2013 11:16pm
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headliner101
Moz posted:
Moz posted:
The last BBC News at Five O'Clock bulletin from Television centre (complete with Film 24).


The Film Review, as it'll now be called, really shows off what they can do in NBH with the ability to change colours in the set and put different backgrounds on the screens, makes it feel like a separate programme all of its own.

Presume that's from Studio E? Presumably sat at screens without the newsroom backdrop?


Think it's C. Not too long now and all will be revealed... Smile

Yes sorry, of course it's C. The 5 will be in C every day as E is rehearsing for the 6.


One thing puzzles me regarding rehearsals for nationals: If a lead-time of 30 mins is required for the likes of the '6' and '10,' how come the presenters on N24 at 12.30 don't have to move out for the 1?
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Critique
Moz posted:
Moz posted:
The last BBC News at Five O'Clock bulletin from Television centre (complete with Film 24).


The Film Review, as it'll now be called, really shows off what they can do in NBH with the ability to change colours in the set and put different backgrounds on the screens, makes it feel like a separate programme all of its own.

Presume that's from Studio E? Presumably sat at screens without the newsroom backdrop?


Think it's C. Not too long now and all will be revealed... Smile

Yes sorry, of course it's C. The 5 will be in C every day as E is rehearsing for the 6.


One thing puzzles me regarding rehearsals for nationals: If a lead-time of 30 mins is required for the likes of the '6' and '10,' how come the presenters on N24 at 12.30 don't have to move out for the 1?


Because the the 1 is produced by the News Channel and therefore doesn't need/rehearsal time. It's treated much more like a normal NC hour than the 6 and 10 are.
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knack
Moz posted:
Moz posted:
The last BBC News at Five O'Clock bulletin from Television centre (complete with Film 24).


The Film Review, as it'll now be called, really shows off what they can do in NBH with the ability to change colours in the set and put different backgrounds on the screens, makes it feel like a separate programme all of its own.

Presume that's from Studio E? Presumably sat at screens without the newsroom backdrop?


Think it's C. Not too long now and all will be revealed... Smile

Yes sorry, of course it's C. The 5 will be in C every day as E is rehearsing for the 6.


One thing puzzles me regarding rehearsals for nationals: If a lead-time of 30 mins is required for the likes of the '6' and '10,' how come the presenters on N24 at 12.30 don't have to move out for the 1?


News at 1 is produced by the news channel while the 6 and 10 are separate productions.
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headliner101
When it comes to the graphics from Monday, how will the logo, clock and ticker look


The ticker will be Similar to BBC WN's I believe.


I know this isn't the mocks forum (and what I've made isn't a mock - as I didn't have the helvetica font and its something I've knocked up in a hurry), but I think the ticker will probably look something like this (I.e. the clock etc).

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My only question would be how the ticker would display Breaking News. Normally the ticker would turn red from grey, but if the ticker is already red - a different colour may well get used.


Nowadays they promote most news as "breaking news" anyway (even on Sky) so they might as well keep it in red.
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Worzel
Yes we've seen with World they can adopt the sets to the colour of the shows such as orange for Impact and dark blue for Newsnight, Focus on Africas lighting is amazing, its gonna be great whilst we are sad to see the historic TVC go, News Channel will benefit in presentation terms, something it hasn't had since 2009 imho.

Its unfortunate that their lack of resources hasnt allowed them to develop in a similar way to how BBC World News has in the last five years. I cant help thinking that following the honeymoon period after this move they will revert back to the same monotonous 'two shrubs behind a desk' formula that has plagued the channel for the better part of a decade.

Watched newswatch earlier on NC and someone emailed in saying that the red lamp shaded lights looked like Christmas bauble baubles but the presented corrected him/her by saying that they are lighting. Why use this lighting and where is it aimed at

Because red lighty-up balls look nice.

Anymore questions?


In the past I've often been criticised for saying that a return to stood-up presentation (even just at the start of the hour and at the half hour after the sting) would 'damage' the channel as it looks more formal with the presenters seated.

As much as I recognise what people say about 'the good old desk and presenter scenario' - we're in the 21st century now, technology and the way people consume the news has evolved. We now have the ability to get news online, Twitter and other means - which are extremely visual.

The BBC News channel, although 'Britain's most watched news channel' can't just 'stay the same' because it's safe. A little imagination costs nothing and over the past 4 years, although I've thought the titles sequences were much better than anything pre-2003 - the channel has suffered from just feeling stale. It's not the backdrop, or graphics, it's the presenters being couped up together constantly, no visual explanations from the Barco wall except during business.

I suppose what I'm saying is the channel needs to be able to have light and shade. Just because presenters are standing up to explain a story - doesn't make it seem less formal. It's how the delivery to camera is carried out.

From what I've been told (previously) in various forms was that stood up presentation in N6 would look messy because of the shape of the studio if there are 2 presenters. Plus, cameras have to be manually moved in to position (although News 24 managed OK in N8 ).

I always said a return to the 2003 presentation style, stood up TOTH's and presenters venturing into the newsroom for interviews (in moderation) adds an edge to it. Presenters moving into the newsroom may not suit a network bulletin - but for a rolling news channel, you still need to have that attention grabbing factor. This mixed with the 2008 rebrand with consitency of graphics and all news under one name would make a visually nice experience for the viewer (and bring network news in presentation terms, in line with the News channel).

The Lambert report in the early 2000's stated the channel needed to stand out, which it did... until 2008/9.

In conclusion I think that just because the viewer may not notice the presenter has moved into the Newsroom for an interview/is standing up to explain a story at the TOTH - doesn't mean it shouldn't be done at all.

Anyway enough of my waffling.
Last edited by Worzel on 16 March 2013 11:53pm - 3 times in total
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harshy Founding member
Apologies for posting another mock this is the first and last one i promise, but I think it will look more like this.

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The grid and character spacing is taken off a real life BBC World graphic.

Of course the clock on the current graphics has a grey background, but in the new graphics there is no grey block so I omitted it.
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StephenCrosby246
Apologies for posting another mock this is the first and last one i promise, but I think it will look more like this.

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The grid and character spacing is taken off a real life BBC World graphic.

Of course the clock on the current graphics has a grey background, but in the new graphics there is no grey block so I omitted it.


How do you make pictures like this

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