SN
It does kind of raise the question - if they can do this for Newsday, why not the overnights & early mornings? It just seems a bit bizarre having World News come from two different places with two completely differing graphics packages for the next couple of weeks...
There does seem to be a bit of computer trickery introduced that wasn't there back in the late 90s.
Last night's 0100GMT edition of Newsday came from NBH and Singapore, on BBC World News, the new package was in use, however on News channel, the old system was still in place. I managed to see the two channels side by side and I can tell you that all the astons text, for both naming interviewees and story expansion text matched each other word for word and on timing of change. So it's clear that one gallery is cueing the astons and some fancy computer is adjusting said astons and text to match whatever theme is in use.
Last night's 0100GMT edition of Newsday came from NBH and Singapore, on BBC World News, the new package was in use, however on News channel, the old system was still in place. I managed to see the two channels side by side and I can tell you that all the astons text, for both naming interviewees and story expansion text matched each other word for word and on timing of change. So it's clear that one gallery is cueing the astons and some fancy computer is adjusting said astons and text to match whatever theme is in use.
It does kind of raise the question - if they can do this for Newsday, why not the overnights & early mornings? It just seems a bit bizarre having World News come from two different places with two completely differing graphics packages for the next couple of weeks...
SR
It does kind of raise the question - if they can do this for Newsday, why not the overnights & early mornings? It just seems a bit bizarre having World News come from two different places with two completely differing graphics packages for the next couple of weeks...
I dont pretend to be an expert, but I can think of a couple of possible reasons why it is not bizarre...
AFAIK, Its all down to which Galleries are in use. I'm sure i'll get corrected by an insider, but AFAIK BBC News does not have a transmission gallery, so the Studio Gallery has to output the entire channel presentation.
Overnight/Early morning bulletins are produced by the gallery at TVC, and outputted straight to air for the UK, or to Red Bee for transmission on BBC World News without going via Broadcasting House. Studio galleries put on the OSGs and seeing as there is only a two week period where the Old graphics will continue to be visible on World, they have decided not to install the new graphics at TVC.
The graphics on Newday are likely able to be different, whilst in sync, if the no-graphics feed of Newsday from BH is taken by TVC with the graphic cues and text information, and the BBC News gallery put the graphics on themselves. (I'm pretty sure i read that they do this already with correspondent packages.) Each channel output puts on their own ticker.
If UK viewers are seeing the old graphics for Newsday, they most likely will continue to see the Old graphics on the overnights until BBC News move to BH.
There does seem to be a bit of computer trickery introduced that wasn't there back in the late 90s.
Last night's 0100GMT edition of Newsday came from NBH and Singapore, on BBC World News, the new package was in use, however on News channel, the old system was still in place. I managed to see the two channels side by side and I can tell you that all the astons text, for both naming interviewees and story expansion text matched each other word for word and on timing of change. So it's clear that one gallery is cueing the astons and some fancy computer is adjusting said astons and text to match whatever theme is in use.
Last night's 0100GMT edition of Newsday came from NBH and Singapore, on BBC World News, the new package was in use, however on News channel, the old system was still in place. I managed to see the two channels side by side and I can tell you that all the astons text, for both naming interviewees and story expansion text matched each other word for word and on timing of change. So it's clear that one gallery is cueing the astons and some fancy computer is adjusting said astons and text to match whatever theme is in use.
It does kind of raise the question - if they can do this for Newsday, why not the overnights & early mornings? It just seems a bit bizarre having World News come from two different places with two completely differing graphics packages for the next couple of weeks...
I dont pretend to be an expert, but I can think of a couple of possible reasons why it is not bizarre...
AFAIK, Its all down to which Galleries are in use. I'm sure i'll get corrected by an insider, but AFAIK BBC News does not have a transmission gallery, so the Studio Gallery has to output the entire channel presentation.
Overnight/Early morning bulletins are produced by the gallery at TVC, and outputted straight to air for the UK, or to Red Bee for transmission on BBC World News without going via Broadcasting House. Studio galleries put on the OSGs and seeing as there is only a two week period where the Old graphics will continue to be visible on World, they have decided not to install the new graphics at TVC.
The graphics on Newday are likely able to be different, whilst in sync, if the no-graphics feed of Newsday from BH is taken by TVC with the graphic cues and text information, and the BBC News gallery put the graphics on themselves. (I'm pretty sure i read that they do this already with correspondent packages.) Each channel output puts on their own ticker.
If UK viewers are seeing the old graphics for Newsday, they most likely will continue to see the Old graphics on the overnights until BBC News move to BH.
AC
Just a minor point: I wonder why the News Channel were using the BBC Sport Centre to interview contributor instead of the NWT Breakfast studio/News Channel contribution studio?
Just a little weird, but the newsroom looks great on this shot. Even saw Andrew Lindsay walking from studio back to desk after his bulletin.
Just a little weird, but the newsroom looks great on this shot. Even saw Andrew Lindsay walking from studio back to desk after his bulletin.
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DF
They will simulcast with World overnight though, so presumably they prefer to use the studio with the newsroom view where they can.
According to the Wikipedia article for Broadcasting House, BBC World News have use of Studio E between 02:00 and 08:00 - thought the BBC News Channel and the network bulletins have exclusive use of that studio.
They will simulcast with World overnight though, so presumably they prefer to use the studio with the newsroom view where they can.
NJ
They will simulcast with World overnight though, so presumably they prefer to use the studio with the newsroom view where they can.
Or whichever is cheaper to run which in this case may be Studio E.
Maybe BBC News is producing the overnights again like they did before BBC WN got into N8
According to the Wikipedia article for Broadcasting House, BBC World News have use of Studio E between 02:00 and 08:00 - thought the BBC News Channel and the network bulletins have exclusive use of that studio.
They will simulcast with World overnight though, so presumably they prefer to use the studio with the newsroom view where they can.
Or whichever is cheaper to run which in this case may be Studio E.
Maybe BBC News is producing the overnights again like they did before BBC WN got into N8
CH
They will simulcast with World overnight though, so presumably they prefer to use the studio with the newsroom view where they can.
Or whichever is cheaper to run which in this case may be Studio E.
Maybe BBC News is producing the overnights again like they did before BBC WN got into N8
Am I right in thinking BBC World News produce the overnights because then funding can come from that division rather than the license fee, much like BBC Four's World News Today moving over to a World News production? Or am I making this up?
According to the Wikipedia article for Broadcasting House, BBC World News have use of Studio E between 02:00 and 08:00 - thought the BBC News Channel and the network bulletins have exclusive use of that studio.
They will simulcast with World overnight though, so presumably they prefer to use the studio with the newsroom view where they can.
Or whichever is cheaper to run which in this case may be Studio E.
Maybe BBC News is producing the overnights again like they did before BBC WN got into N8
Am I right in thinking BBC World News produce the overnights because then funding can come from that division rather than the license fee, much like BBC Four's World News Today moving over to a World News production? Or am I making this up?
IL
They will simulcast with World overnight though, so presumably they prefer to use the studio with the newsroom view where they can.
Yeah I guess, I assume it also means Studio E can be tested before the others arrive. Do World still have control of the overnights?
According to the Wikipedia article for Broadcasting House, BBC World News have use of Studio E between 02:00 and 08:00 - thought the BBC News Channel and the network bulletins have exclusive use of that studio.
They will simulcast with World overnight though, so presumably they prefer to use the studio with the newsroom view where they can.
Yeah I guess, I assume it also means Studio E can be tested before the others arrive. Do World still have control of the overnights?