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Marcus Founding member
chris posted:
Marcus posted:
SomeRandomStuff posted:
aprilj posted:
SomeRandomStuff posted:
aprilj posted:
Critique posted:
One would assume it'd be some time after Newsnight are out (which means the Six is the only thing to come from TC7?), and maybe even when World have moved. Either way, I'd think it to be late this year, or early next year.


Newsnight will be at BH from Monday, so presumably they could potentially close TC7 on Monday. It would be the most cost effective thing to do as it has been previously said that the News at Six will be the only programme broadcasting from there.


Agreed... although we havent had any internal confirmation on when TC7 will close. We'll only really know for sure if we see Huw in N9. The cant use N8 until World move out as they broadcast "The Hub" and "Focus on Africa" during the 5pm hour BST)


Didn't someone say N9 was already closed? I guess they may have kept it open because it will surely be cheaper to run N9 than TC7 for one bulletin a day.


If they did say N9 was "closed" they were talking out of their exhaust pipe. N9 has only been Mothballed and is ready to use at a moments notice, its been used for Local Elections and for both BBC News and BBC World News during times when their regular studios were under mainenance and over the Christmas period several years running.

Theyre moving out because TC7 is being rented. N9 is converted office within the BBC News Centre, probably doesn't need as many staff to run it as TC7 and they're bound to save a small fortune on electricity bills because N9 doesn't have any Barco cubes.


I wouldn't say a moment's notice, More like a day's


What exactly do they need to do that would take a day? Surely if N8 went down they could move to N9 within the hour?


If things aren't used they tend to get turned off, or crash, or blow or wander. It takes a while to test everything and to line it all up before a studio can be used in anger.
SR
SomeRandomStuff
Marcus posted:
chris posted:
Marcus posted:
SomeRandomStuff posted:
aprilj posted:
SomeRandomStuff posted:
aprilj posted:
Critique posted:
One would assume it'd be some time after Newsnight are out (which means the Six is the only thing to come from TC7?), and maybe even when World have moved. Either way, I'd think it to be late this year, or early next year.


Newsnight will be at BH from Monday, so presumably they could potentially close TC7 on Monday. It would be the most cost effective thing to do as it has been previously said that the News at Six will be the only programme broadcasting from there.


Agreed... although we havent had any internal confirmation on when TC7 will close. We'll only really know for sure if we see Huw in N9. The cant use N8 until World move out as they broadcast "The Hub" and "Focus on Africa" during the 5pm hour BST)


Didn't someone say N9 was already closed? I guess they may have kept it open because it will surely be cheaper to run N9 than TC7 for one bulletin a day.


If they did say N9 was "closed" they were talking out of their exhaust pipe. N9 has only been Mothballed and is ready to use at a moments notice, its been used for Local Elections and for both BBC News and BBC World News during times when their regular studios were under mainenance and over the Christmas period several years running.

Theyre moving out because TC7 is being rented. N9 is converted office within the BBC News Centre, probably doesn't need as many staff to run it as TC7 and they're bound to save a small fortune on electricity bills because N9 doesn't have any Barco cubes.


I wouldn't say a moment's notice, More like a day's


What exactly do they need to do that would take a day? Surely if N8 went down they could move to N9 within the hour?


If things aren't used they tend to get turned off, or crash, or blow or wander. It takes a while to test everything and to line it all up before a studio can be used in anger.


Mothballing in this case would be to "put in protective storage", and to protect the technology in a TV studio it would need to be regularly maintained. They arent going to just ignore it for six months and turn up the day before they need it and its covered in dust and all the bulbs are blown and the TV Centre resident mice have eaten away the electrical cables. Shocked
WO
Worzel
chris posted:
Marcus posted:
SomeRandomStuff posted:
aprilj posted:
SomeRandomStuff posted:
aprilj posted:
Critique posted:
One would assume it'd be some time after Newsnight are out (which means the Six is the only thing to come from TC7?), and maybe even when World have moved. Either way, I'd think it to be late this year, or early next year.


Newsnight will be at BH from Monday, so presumably they could potentially close TC7 on Monday. It would be the most cost effective thing to do as it has been previously said that the News at Six will be the only programme broadcasting from there.


Agreed... although we havent had any internal confirmation on when TC7 will close. We'll only really know for sure if we see Huw in N9. The cant use N8 until World move out as they broadcast "The Hub" and "Focus on Africa" during the 5pm hour BST)


Didn't someone say N9 was already closed? I guess they may have kept it open because it will surely be cheaper to run N9 than TC7 for one bulletin a day.


If they did say N9 was "closed" they were talking out of their exhaust pipe. N9 has only been Mothballed and is ready to use at a moments notice, its been used for Local Elections and for both BBC News and BBC World News during times when their regular studios were under mainenance and over the Christmas period several years running.

Theyre moving out because TC7 is being rented. N9 is converted office within the BBC News Centre, probably doesn't need as many staff to run it as TC7 and they're bound to save a small fortune on electricity bills because N9 doesn't have any Barco cubes.


I wouldn't say a moment's notice, More like a day's


What exactly do they need to do that would take a day? Surely if N8 went down they could move to N9 within the hour?


When N6 first went live when the News channel rebranded, didn't they (within the first few weeks in April 2008) have an issue when the air con failed and they had to quickly decamp to N9 until it was fixed? That only took a matter of hours. Also when press conferences have overrun or something serious has happened and N6 is being used for the nationals, the News channel has decamped at a moments notice. Surely it's just a matter of getting the staff to run the gallery, plus the presenter, re-routing output and talkback sorted and it can spring in to life?
DO
dosxuk
All sorts of equipment which is normally used 24/7 can have issues if it's turned on after a prolonged (i.e. longer than normal) shutdown. I've had PC power supplies spontaneously catch fire in front of me after being turned on after a shutdown over christmas (they'd been running since the previous christmas without issues). Monitors and lighting fixtures are other things which are particularily liable to go *pop* after not being used for a while.

Then there's the practical issues, like people borrowing the directors chair from the gallery because it wasn't in use and they needed an extra one at a desk, and it looked comfy, or finding the printers have run out of toner, or someone's unpatched the phone lines because they didn't think it was in use and couldn't find it. Maybe someone had a ladder out and has knocked the key lights off focus. Have the cleaners unplugged the plasma?

The list of things which need to be checked before you could use the studio on air are endless and take time to complete.

As for the NC quickly decamping, how do you know the studio wasn't already fired up for some other reason (training / rehersal / demos) and the decision to decamp wasn't made because they wanted to, but because the ability to do so was available and worthwhile taking?
SR
SomeRandomStuff
In truth, as with most things on this forum, we don't know and are just speculating.
SP
Steve in Pudsey
Worzel posted:
When N6 first went live when the News channel rebranded, didn't they (within the first few weeks in April 2008) have an issue when the air con failed and they had to quickly decamp to N9 until it was fixed?


I thought they simulcast with World on that occasion - although I can't remember whether World were still in N9 or had moved into N9 by that point.
IT
itsrobert Founding member
Steve in Pudsey posted:
Worzel posted:
When N6 first went live when the News channel rebranded, didn't they (within the first few weeks in April 2008) have an issue when the air con failed and they had to quickly decamp to N9 until it was fixed?


I thought they simulcast with World on that occasion - although I can't remember whether World were still in N9 or had moved into N9 by that point.


I think Worzel is getting mistaken - if this incident happened within a week or so of News 24 moving into N6 then undoubtedly World was still in N9. N8 had to be fitted out for World to move in and I think this only happened a couple of months later.
MO
Moz
Hardtalk is defo coming from the VR Studio A in NBH. Looks VR and the aston animation is W1.
WO
Worzel
When they do a DTL interview from NBH, why do they caption it as and annouce it as our 'Central London studio'. I'd have thought they'd say something like 'our new building at Broadcasting House'?
BA
bilky asko
Worzel posted:
When they do a DTL interview from NBH, why do they caption it as and annouce it as our 'Central London studio'. I'd have thought they'd say something like 'our new building at Broadcasting House'?

Because it would get very annoying very quickly? Because the general public don't care? Because the precise location isn't that important?
DF
DrewF
bilky asko posted:
Worzel posted:
When they do a DTL interview from NBH, why do they caption it as and annouce it as our 'Central London studio'. I'd have thought they'd say something like 'our new building at Broadcasting House'?

Because it would get very annoying very quickly? Because the general public don't care? Because the precise location isn't that important?


Agreed - saying that, Annita McVeigh did call it New Broadcasting House when going to a live there earlier on.
WO
Worzel
Borrowing this from another thread but it looks like the News channel's new Studio E set at NBH is almost complete in the background.

http://c0014524.r32.cf1.rackcdn.com/x2_f083ab1

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