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itsrobert Founding member
I'm wondering whether it's just a case of the lighting being slightly different in each capture - or even the brightness/contrast settings on individual capture cards. Do we know that they all came from exactly the same equipment with the settings unchanged? I have to be honest and say that I too can't tell the difference between all except the last one. Quite how anyone can tell the difference on screen is beyond me. I have to really stare at those stills to see anything - I usually don't even look at the background on the telly!
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scottishtv Founding member
Indeed, and there could also be some very slight changes in camera angle/position at play as not all presenters are the same height.
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aprilj
That wasn't a very good shot to show the difference. The main close up shot does show a big difference...

http://tvnewsroom.co.uk/wp-content/section-images/the-wedding-announcement-bbc-news/TVNR-2010-11-17-10h20m42s74.jpg

compared with...

http://tvnewsroom.co.uk/wp-content/section-images/bbc-news-strike-july-2011/bbc-news-bbc-news-at-ten-07-15-22-54-29.jpg
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George Hill
I can see a small difference in the brightness - but I don't think it is a different background. It could well be just the lighting or maybe some resolution problem?
VM
VMPhil
Can't we all just agree the worst one is that one for the daytime BBC One bulletins in front of the Guiness World Records approved Worst Greenscreen in the World Ever
JA
james
Can't we all just agree the worst one is that one for the daytime BBC One bulletins in front of the Guiness World Records approved Worst Greenscreen in the World Ever


What?!!?! I thought it was a real newsroom? Confused
DO
dosxuk
I'm wondering whether it's just a case of the lighting being slightly different in each capture - or even the brightness/contrast settings on individual capture cards.


Don't forget the individual camera settings as well. Any one of the hundreds of parameters on the cameras can cause an identical background to look slightly different. Alter a few of them and you end up with quite a difference.
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David
"Barcos" is the correct way to write it.


It's also recommended that when you start a sentence, ideally it shouldn't be started with the word 'using'. Just thought I'd point out one of your errors.


What a douche.


Don't worry about it. Worzel may not have thanked you but your reward will come when he next posts about Barco screens and uses the correct case and punctuation. You can then smile proudly to yourself and know you have made a difference to the world. The other possibility is that Worzel will refuse to take your advice on board and will continue to talk about BARCO'S. Your reward in that situation will come from not only knowing that Worzel is wrong but also knowing that he knows he is wrong and it is eating him up inside.
WO
Worzel


They do have 2 different backdrops, there's not a computer animated journalist sitting on the chair behind the presenter in the second shot.

Plus when I went to Television Centre last year and went into N6 I asked... and was told they had 2 different versions of the daytime backdrop.

I'm sure Mediaboy wil confirm this to us.
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dosxuk
If I was working on there, I'd choose the background with the use of a dice for a week, just to annoy the people who get upset by the "wrong" background being used...
BA
bilky asko
Worzel, I don't mean to be rude when I say the following - its just that you keep repeating the same grammatical errors and some may think less of you because of them, which wouldn't be at all nice for you.

There is no apostrophe needed when you are referring to multiple Barco projection cubes. Apostrophes are used to indicate the possessive - i.e. belonging to. Using an S to show the plural of an object does not require one.

The word Barco is a brand name - not an acronym but a proper noun. It needs only one upper case letter, and that should go at the start of the word.

"Barcos" is the correct way to write it.


It's also recommended that when you start a sentence, ideally it shouldn't be started with the word 'using'. Just thought I'd point out one of your errors.


If prescriptivism is the order of the day, you are not only wrong, but your response contains further errors.

It is perfectly acceptable to begin a sentence with a gerund.

Firstly, your first sentence is badly constructed; the repetition of the the idea of starting a sentence should be reduced to one instance.

Secondly, your lack of subject at the start of your second sentence is erroneous.

Thirdly, you should use "that" after "thought" in your second sentence, as it does not accurately describe your notion that your though led to your action.

Here is an example of how you could have written it:

"It's also recommended that a sentence shouldn't be started with "using". I just thought that I'd point out one of your errors."

However, this is a forum that exists in reality, and to "correct" somebody when what they have chosen to say is in a register that may differ from what some perceive as "correct", is wrong.

For Gavin to offer you advice on how to express yourself clearly, and to prevent derision from other members, is merely that: advice.
PE
Pete Founding member
If I was working on there, I'd choose the background with the use of a dice for a week, just to annoy the people who get upset by the "wrong" background being used...


I'd use several dice on a rota.

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