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itsrobert
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I disagree, Drew, I don't think it looks any better. Aside from the lighting, the background monitors are just too much in focus and therefore distracting. When watching the sport updates, I'm finding it an effort to focus on the presenter - my eyes keep wanting to be drawn to the background. In my humble opinion, that's poor set design. A set shouldn't detract from the content - it should be functional and attractive, but ultimately not that noticeable. I've certainly never had such problems with N6 - I forget the background's there and focus on what's being said.
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Forgive the quickness of this mock, but it looks so much nicer with the background blurred. Maybe if there was a bit more light on the set it would help with the depth of field. It's already become known as the "BBC Sport Bunker" here because of how dark it looks on screen!
http://home.vis-is.co.uk/data/grabs/bbcsportbunkermock.jpg
I disagree, Drew, I don't think it looks any better. Aside from the lighting, the background monitors are just too much in focus and therefore distracting. When watching the sport updates, I'm finding it an effort to focus on the presenter - my eyes keep wanting to be drawn to the background. In my humble opinion, that's poor set design. A set shouldn't detract from the content - it should be functional and attractive, but ultimately not that noticeable. I've certainly never had such problems with N6 - I forget the background's there and focus on what's being said.
Forgive the quickness of this mock, but it looks so much nicer with the background blurred. Maybe if there was a bit more light on the set it would help with the depth of field. It's already become known as the "BBC Sport Bunker" here because of how dark it looks on screen!
http://home.vis-is.co.uk/data/grabs/bbcsportbunkermock.jpg
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itsrobert
Founding member
Wow, that's a world of difference! That, coupled with improved lighting, would completely solve the issue. Blurring the background keeps you focused on the presenter but still conveys the immediacy and productivity subtly hinted at by the moving screens in the background.
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A former member
http://www.theidentgallery.com/misc/misc/BBCNEWS-2012-TITLE-JAPANONEYEARON-1.mp4
'Japan Disaster: One Year On' titles from BBC News 5am 11/3/12
The titles were broadcast as jerky as they are shown here (recorded from BBC ONE), though later on BBC ONE HD the animation seemed much smoother.
'Japan Disaster: One Year On' titles from BBC News 5am 11/3/12
The titles were broadcast as jerky as they are shown here (recorded from BBC ONE), though later on BBC ONE HD the animation seemed much smoother.
WO
http://www.bbc.co.uk/burmese/news/2012/03/120302_nbh_promo.shtml
Wow - this came from a thread in the main forum, can't wait for the news channel to be in there
Wow - this came from a thread in the main forum, can't wait for the news channel to be in there
NG
Forgive the quickness of this mock, but it looks so much nicer with the background blurred. Maybe if there was a bit more light on the set it would help with the depth of field. It's already become known as the "BBC Sport Bunker" here because of how dark it looks on screen!
http://home.vis-is.co.uk/data/grabs/bbcsportbunkermock.jpg
You want less light - not more - to reduce depth of field don't you? Either by ND-ing the cameras, putting negative gain in, or by reducing the light levels. Depth of field, for a given lens and sensor, is reduced as you increase the aperture size (which lets in more light), whilst a small aperture gives the 'everything in focus' look.
If you have a lot of light, you stop down cameras (i.e. reduce the size of the aperture) and thus get everything in focus. If you don't have a lot of light (or put ND filters or negative gain in to reduce the light hitting the sensor, or reduce the effective sensitivity of the sensor) then you end up with a larger aperture and a shallower depth of field.
In reality - you should decide your depth of field first, and then light / rack to make the pictures look right.
You also need to put the light in the right places. The 'dark bunker' look is often caused by an imbalance between the presenter lighting and the background lighting (over lighting the presenter in some cases)
noggin
Founding member
I disagree, Drew, I don't think it looks any better. Aside from the lighting, the background monitors are just too much in focus and therefore distracting. When watching the sport updates, I'm finding it an effort to focus on the presenter - my eyes keep wanting to be drawn to the background. In my humble opinion, that's poor set design. A set shouldn't detract from the content - it should be functional and attractive, but ultimately not that noticeable. I've certainly never had such problems with N6 - I forget the background's there and focus on what's being said.
Forgive the quickness of this mock, but it looks so much nicer with the background blurred. Maybe if there was a bit more light on the set it would help with the depth of field. It's already become known as the "BBC Sport Bunker" here because of how dark it looks on screen!
http://home.vis-is.co.uk/data/grabs/bbcsportbunkermock.jpg
You want less light - not more - to reduce depth of field don't you? Either by ND-ing the cameras, putting negative gain in, or by reducing the light levels. Depth of field, for a given lens and sensor, is reduced as you increase the aperture size (which lets in more light), whilst a small aperture gives the 'everything in focus' look.
If you have a lot of light, you stop down cameras (i.e. reduce the size of the aperture) and thus get everything in focus. If you don't have a lot of light (or put ND filters or negative gain in to reduce the light hitting the sensor, or reduce the effective sensitivity of the sensor) then you end up with a larger aperture and a shallower depth of field.
In reality - you should decide your depth of field first, and then light / rack to make the pictures look right.
You also need to put the light in the right places. The 'dark bunker' look is often caused by an imbalance between the presenter lighting and the background lighting (over lighting the presenter in some cases)
JO
http://tvnewsroom.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/BBC-News-Funnies-No-Sports-News.mp4
EDIT - The video's not working for me, not sure about anyone else? - view it here
Ooops, on the BBC news channel just now, when the opt-out came at the TOTH there was an empty chair at the sports desk, no presenter!
http://tvnewsroom.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/BBC-News-Funnies-No-Sports-News.mp4
EDIT - The video's not working for me, not sure about anyone else? - view it here
GM
http://tvnewsroom.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/BBC-News-Funnies-No-Sports-News.mp4
EDIT - The video's not working for me, not sure about anyone else? - view it here
Nope not working for me either...
Ooops, on the BBC news channel just now, when the opt-out came at the TOTH there was an empty chair at the sports desk, no presenter!
http://tvnewsroom.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/BBC-News-Funnies-No-Sports-News.mp4
EDIT - The video's not working for me, not sure about anyone else? - view it here
Nope not working for me either...