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GI
ginnyfan
The set is too dark.
DF
DrewF
The set is too dark.


The 'single' shots look a lot better. The set definitely gets affected by the sunlight, will hopefully look nicer in the summer when it's lighter for longer.

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IT
itsrobert Founding member
I disagree, Drew, I don't think it looks any better. Aside from the lighting, the background monitors are just too much in focus and therefore distracting. When watching the sport updates, I'm finding it an effort to focus on the presenter - my eyes keep wanting to be drawn to the background. In my humble opinion, that's poor set design. A set shouldn't detract from the content - it should be functional and attractive, but ultimately not that noticeable. I've certainly never had such problems with N6 - I forget the background's there and focus on what's being said.
DO
dosxuk
DrewF posted:
The set is too dark.


The 'single' shots look a lot better. The set definitely gets affected by the sunlight, will hopefully look nicer in the summer when it's lighter for longer.

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Have they asked the presenters to dress on-brand? Shocked Laughing
DO
dosxuk
I disagree, Drew, I don't think it looks any better. Aside from the lighting, the background monitors are just too much in focus and therefore distracting. When watching the sport updates, I'm finding it an effort to focus on the presenter - my eyes keep wanting to be drawn to the background. In my humble opinion, that's poor set design. A set shouldn't detract from the content - it should be functional and attractive, but ultimately not that noticeable. I've certainly never had such problems with N6 - I forget the background's there and focus on what's being said.


Forgive the quickness of this mock, but it looks so much nicer with the background blurred. Maybe if there was a bit more light on the set it would help with the depth of field. It's already become known as the "BBC Sport Bunker" here because of how dark it looks on screen!

http://home.vis-is.co.uk/data/grabs/bbcsportbunkermock.jpg
IT
itsrobert Founding member
Wow, that's a world of difference! That, coupled with improved lighting, would completely solve the issue. Blurring the background keeps you focused on the presenter but still conveys the immediacy and productivity subtly hinted at by the moving screens in the background.
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A former member
http://www.theidentgallery.com/misc/misc/BBCNEWS-2012-TITLE-JAPANONEYEARON-1.mp4

'Japan Disaster: One Year On' titles from BBC News 5am 11/3/12

The titles were broadcast as jerky as they are shown here (recorded from BBC ONE), though later on BBC ONE HD the animation seemed much smoother.
WO
Worzel
http://www.bbc.co.uk/burmese/news/2012/03/120302_nbh_promo.shtml

Wow - this came from a thread in the main forum, can't wait for the news channel to be in there Smile
NG
noggin Founding member
I disagree, Drew, I don't think it looks any better. Aside from the lighting, the background monitors are just too much in focus and therefore distracting. When watching the sport updates, I'm finding it an effort to focus on the presenter - my eyes keep wanting to be drawn to the background. In my humble opinion, that's poor set design. A set shouldn't detract from the content - it should be functional and attractive, but ultimately not that noticeable. I've certainly never had such problems with N6 - I forget the background's there and focus on what's being said.


Forgive the quickness of this mock, but it looks so much nicer with the background blurred. Maybe if there was a bit more light on the set it would help with the depth of field. It's already become known as the "BBC Sport Bunker" here because of how dark it looks on screen!

http://home.vis-is.co.uk/data/grabs/bbcsportbunkermock.jpg


You want less light - not more - to reduce depth of field don't you? Either by ND-ing the cameras, putting negative gain in, or by reducing the light levels. Depth of field, for a given lens and sensor, is reduced as you increase the aperture size (which lets in more light), whilst a small aperture gives the 'everything in focus' look.

If you have a lot of light, you stop down cameras (i.e. reduce the size of the aperture) and thus get everything in focus. If you don't have a lot of light (or put ND filters or negative gain in to reduce the light hitting the sensor, or reduce the effective sensitivity of the sensor) then you end up with a larger aperture and a shallower depth of field.

In reality - you should decide your depth of field first, and then light / rack to make the pictures look right.

You also need to put the light in the right places. The 'dark bunker' look is often caused by an imbalance between the presenter lighting and the background lighting (over lighting the presenter in some cases)
CH
chris_rgu
Ooops, on the BBC news channel just now, when the opt-out came at the TOTH there was an empty chair at the sports desk, no presenter!
JO
Johnnie
Ooops, on the BBC news channel just now, when the opt-out came at the TOTH there was an empty chair at the sports desk, no presenter!


http://tvnewsroom.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/BBC-News-Funnies-No-Sports-News.mp4

EDIT - The video's not working for me, not sure about anyone else? - view it here
GM
Gary McEwan
Ooops, on the BBC news channel just now, when the opt-out came at the TOTH there was an empty chair at the sports desk, no presenter!


http://tvnewsroom.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/BBC-News-Funnies-No-Sports-News.mp4

EDIT - The video's not working for me, not sure about anyone else? - view it here


Nope not working for me either...

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