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Worzel
DrewF posted:
Worzel posted:
One question, how will the News channel presenter be able to look at the back of the Papers (Sports stories) as he/she used to do after the last Sports bully?


We'll soon see - I assume the whole thing will be done from Salford by the sports presenter.


And the Sports presenter did the back pages on their own.
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Worzel
aconnell posted:
First time I've seen this done.

Barcos at the back showing a view of the newspapers from the camera mounted above the desk. Why can't they just get the actual graphic of the newspaper front page à la Sky rather than the low-tech alternative?

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Chris calling it a little automatic camera that takes a while to be cranked up and zoom in!


Maybe low tech, but seemed to work and was a nice change.

Also worth noting that some nice shots being on the news channel this evening.
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dosxuk
aconnell posted:
First time I've seen this done.

Barcos at the back showing a view of the newspapers from the camera mounted above the desk. Why can't they just get the actual graphic of the newspaper front page à la Sky rather than the low-tech alternative?

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Chris calling it a little automatic camera that takes a while to be cranked up and zoom in!


The "high-tech" solution being? Not printing out the graphics? For a start having a physical copy in the studio allows the presenters to directly point out things, but at the end of the day, they're props.

I remember years ago having to hold up a physical copy of a newspaper so that it could be captured into a still store... That's the real low-tech option!
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Worzel
I don't know if its ever been mentioned on here before, but if you look at the Breakfast backdrop (to the left hand side), there's a large section of the backdrop, actually the full side wall that seems to be that of (or the same as) the newsroom backdrop that's used behind the presenters on the news channel, just much better quality.

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Thing is when the shot is used with a guest on that side and its in vision (mainly on Breakfast at the weekends - when it's in N6), the background itself seems 100 times better than the washed out one that the news channel uses.

I just wondered why, a variation of that part of the backdrop on breakfast wasn't used on the news channel as it looks far better on screen (IMHO).
Last edited by Worzel on 6 March 2012 12:08am
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Steve in Pudsey
Do we assume that sport moving to Salford is the reason the Channel was in TC7 on Saturday, so that they could use N6 to rehearse throwing to Salford cleanly?
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Worzel
Media Boy posted:
Pete posted:
Media Boy posted:
No - TC7 was actually controlling the main News Channel Viz engine - thats 'Viz 81' if anyone is particularly interested!


*waves*

Do you happen to know {or can you shed any light on} the reason for the difference between the fonts on regional and national astons as previously mentioned in this thread? Had always presumed it was a technical reason behind it but it appears to be a deliberate design decision.


ok - lets try....

The Locators (top left) are generated in N6 by Big Ted 3 - which controls an Aston Motif machine.
The poster talking about why a BBC London strap appeared over Danny Savage is simply that someone transmitted a 2 line aston instead of the Locator - and then quickly recued the locator.
Most BBC regions generate their lower thirds with Aston Motif (or similar) machines, controlled by Big Ted - just like the morning summaries on BBC1 from the clip studio.

All other BBC Outlets use Viz to generate the lower third straps. These are now installed in Salford and BBC Scotland.. and provide NC/BBC 1 Bully style animations on and off...

The text is the same font - but because of the way that the text is generated it looks slightly different and the animation does not happen with the Aston Motif.

Does that start to make sense....??


I've always wondered why the Live/Locator graphics are different from the TC7 and N6 galleries (I.e, the fonts being slighly different, and the location text being slightly smaller and in bold).

Also just now on Newsday, they showed a report with a telephone interview and it had a rotating phone symbol on screen next to the callers name and static picture. Never seen that used before.
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Worzel
I don't know if anyones watching the News channel simulcast on BBC2, but theres a strange symbol on screen which looks like a pause symbol in the top right of the picture. I've never seen it before so thought I'd mention it. Sadly I don't have a way of capturing it at the moment.
SA
samwsmith1
Worzel posted:
I don't know if anyones watching the News channel simulcast on BBC2, but theres a strange symbol on screen which looks like a pause symbol in the top right of the picture. I've never seen it before so thought I'd mention it. Sadly I don't have a way of capturing it at the moment.


I just switched to BBC 2 on Virgin to check and there is a pause symbol, but it doesn't show up on the iPlayer live stream of BBC 2.
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Steve in Pudsey
that usually happens when they are doing an engineering test so they can identify which feed is which. Possibly the digital equivalent of an RBS test or testing whether the procedures to put the disaster recovery playout centre on air work.
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Moz
Steve in Pudsey posted:
Do we assume that sport moving to Salford is the reason the Channel was in TC7 on Saturday, so that they could use N6 to rehearse throwing to Salford cleanly?

I think someone said they were annual rehearsals, and that N6 had to be totally disconnected from outside world so nobody accidentally saw what was going on. Doubt they'd take these precautions for 'throwing to Salford cleanly' - more likely rehearsing a Royal death?
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thegeek Founding member
Steve in Pudsey posted:
Do we assume that sport moving to Salford is the reason the Channel was in TC7 on Saturday, so that they could use N6 to rehearse throwing to Salford cleanly?

No. N6 was being used for a "why are all the newsreaders wearing black?" rehearsal.

Worzel posted:
I don't know if anyones watching the News channel simulcast on BBC2, but theres a strange symbol on screen which looks like a pause symbol in the top right of the picture. I've never seen it before so thought I'd mention it. Sadly I don't have a way of capturing it at the moment.

Steve in Pudsey posted:
that usually happens when they are doing an engineering test so they can identify which feed is which. Possibly the digital equivalent of an RBS test or testing whether the procedures to put the disaster recovery playout centre on air work.

That's right - it's Red Bee's attempt at a cue dot. Often it's less interesting than the DRC going on air - usually something like planned work on one fibre path, and making sure beforehand that the other one is to air.
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Moz
thegeek posted:
Steve in Pudsey posted:
Do we assume that sport moving to Salford is the reason the Channel was in TC7 on Saturday, so that they could use N6 to rehearse throwing to Salford cleanly?

No. N6 was being used for a "why are all the newsreaders wearing black?" rehearsal.

Who would be involved in these rehearsals? All the senior newsreaders?

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