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Worzel
Why are there two different versions of essentially the same super on the same system? I always assumed that the Regions and Nations had graphics that were slightly different (principally in the kerning, leading and size of the text) because they were using different (more limited? inferior?) equipment to the Television Centre studios - but this suggests that there are actually two distinct designs, and I'm a little unclear as to why.

Why shouldn't BBC London or any other region have the same-size typeface and identical character and line spacing as the National, NC and World News? I thought the point of the 2008 revamp was to introduce maximum commonality to BBC News output wherever practical, and to only offer distinctiveness through local branding.

The two different main super designs seems like a bit of an arbitrary distinction - the kind of thing that most people won't notice, but which somebody at some point must have had a reason to put into effect. I'm just completely at a loss to understand what that reason is at the moment.


That question always baffled me, as ITV News use the exact same astons on the National News bulletins and the Regions. If they can do it - shouldn't be that difficult for the BBC to implement.

I also notice that the BBC regions graphics just fade on and off screen, whereas the News channel/National astons 'wipe on and off' as it were.

Also, since Breakfast revamped (and during the Breakfast regional bullys) I've noticed the regions seem to have different clocks on screens in different positions all over the place, some have a black clock, red clock, orange clock, some have BBC LOOK EAST, BBC POINTS WEST on screen, some don't. Doesn't seem very uniform for a 'look' that was supposed to be the same across the board. It can't be that difficult to get all the regions graphics to look the same.
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aconnell
I notice North West Tonight's straps animate off with the 'wipe' as per the Nationals. Until about last week or so, they just disappeared without any transition, but animated on with the wipe. But the typeface does look differento to the Nationals - very similar to what it did before.

The Arabic/Persian straps are the most superior. They animate with a circular sort of pulse from the right hand side instead of the wipe. They look a lot more sophisticated. And their countdowns have much better graphic visuals!
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Worzel
I notice North West Tonight's straps animate off with the 'wipe' as per the Nationals. Until about last week or so, they just disappeared without any transition, but animated on with the wipe. But the typeface does look differento to the Nationals - very similar to what it did before.


That could be down to the gallery being upgraded in anticipation of Breakfast's move there very soon.
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bilky asko
I was watching earlier, and I saw a small Videophone aston with a red background that I've never seen before - it looked like it wasn't meant to be there anyway.
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DTV
During the Weather the Countdown Music Played, muting Darren Bett @ 10:28.
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DrewF
Here are some caps from TC7 this morning with the NC:

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JamesWorldNews
Is Declan normally on on a Saturday? (without a tie, I ask myself why!) #Poetry
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DrewF
Is Declan normally on on a Saturday?


He does a short business style slot on a Saturday morning called 'Your Money' for 15 minutes - although normally he is on the other 'secondary' side of the desk for it in N6 and can use the side Barco for graphics etc.

He also does a 30 minute show on Sundays in N6 called 'Show Me The Money'.
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m_in_m
DrewF posted:
Is Declan normally on on a Saturday?


He does a short business style slot on a Saturday morning called 'Your Money' for 15 minutes - although normally he is on the other 'secondary' side of the desk for it in N6 and can use the side Barco for graphics etc.

He also does a 30 minute show on Sundays in N6 called 'Show Me The Money'.


In addition he also presents an hour business programmes on Radio 5 Live at 20:00 on Sunday called On The Money. The same guests who appear in On The Money also appear on Show Me The Money.
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JamesWorldNews
We've got Christian Fraser on World today again, but he's presenting from the small pod at the side. That's normally an indication that Dateline has been using the main desk again.

We'll see at the bottom of the hour, I presume!

So, not only has the NC been evicted today, but also Dateline too!
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Ian of old
The NC has looked superb in TC7 today. Imaginative and fresh camera work throughout the 13:00 half hour too - with the sting at 13:30 playing in music only with a moving camera zoom into Maxine. Little touches like this make such a difference in making it a more enjoyable watch.
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chris_rgu
Back to N6 at 3pm

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