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woah posted:

By far the worst angle in BBC News is the one in N8 which shows the Barco - which is directly side on. It's so far zoomed out that the whole desk can be seen - and Zeinab Badawi and a few other presenters literally turn their whole body round to face the camera instead of just turning their head, which looks very, very uncomfortable.


No, I think Zeinab's side on shots are very good, they show the versatility of the studio, as a main point of thses shots represent the different programmes. Impact is done from the end of the desk closest to the Barco, so Mishal often is surrounded by an image; GMT is done with a standing up TOTH and 1230 from the Barco and the George sits about 2/3rds along the desk; The Hub is done from a podium next to the wall; Business Edition from the exact middle of the desk and Zeinab's usually 1/3rd to 1/2 down the desk, and spins on the chair to do the 1900 and 200 TOTHs. So I think it's quite effective - but does raise the question - isn't that studio boiling hot considering it's used sometimes roughly 19 hours a day non-stop!
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Worzel
News channel seem to be having problems with their graphics tonight, keep going offline and online again.

I've noticed the ticker started to have the 'hippy shakes' again so maybe theyre 'purging those temp files'. Wink
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woah posted:
This isn't an angle I've seen used before for images before, doesn't look too bad to be honest. I know the same image position is used for interviews at that side of the desk.

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Yes, I noticed that earlier and thought it looked nice Smile They do seem to be doing some snazzy bits with the Barcos over the past few days, as I said earlier - the other night when Chris Eakin was on talking about the snow - they used a full image wrap round the walls - rather than the far left wall.

I musn't do those Barcos any good just showing the same fake newsroom constantly?

Of course when they first launched in 2008, they used lots of shots like that but with nice smaller pictures as seen in this cap from TV Live...

http://www.tv-live.org.uk/wb/media/bbcnews2008/one/newsatone_030.jpg
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Worzel
woah posted:
This isn't an angle I've seen used before for images before, doesn't look too bad to be honest. I know the same image position is used for interviews at that side of the desk.

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Yes, I noticed that earlier and thought it looked nice Smile They do seem to be doing some snazzy bits with the Barcos over the past few days, as I said earlier - the other night when Chris Eakin was on talking about the snow - they used a full image wrap round the walls - rather than the far left wall.

I musn't do those Barcos any good just showing the same fake newsroom constantly?

Of course when they first launched in 2008, they used lots of shots like that but with nice smaller pictures as seen in this cap from TV Live...

http://www.tv-live.org.uk/wb/media/bbcnews2008/one/newsatone_030.jpg


I always prefferred the boxes, I don't know why lol
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Whoopsy - a second or so of the countdown made it on to BBC1 at the start of the lunchtime news
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News channel seem to be having problems with their graphics tonight, keep going offline and online again.

I've noticed the ticker started to have the 'hippy shakes' again so maybe theyre 'purging those temp files'. Wink


It's maybe because you're up at 12:48 in the morning purging your stomach of gin.
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Something that's struck me this holiday season especially, but certainly at weekends previously..

Why do BBC1 schedule short bulletins away from the top of the hour, and then expect the news channel to interrupt their flow to provide a joint bulletin?! If it was a 15, 30 or 45 minute junction it wouldn't be so bad.. but I'm sure they've done five and ten past junctions recently which just look a little silly on N24.

Similarly, at 1pm (I think) today when it was midnight New Year in Sydney and in years gone by, the news channel would have gone live to the Sydney fireworks. Instead they were carrying a ten minute signed BBC1 bulletin. It was left to Sky to show Sydney - who then ruined it with their dubbed music and OTT graphics. This was the first time I've switched to Sky News (except for a laugh) in years, and will now be the last... but anyway, the point stands.
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Worzel
Something that's struck me this holiday season especially, but certainly at weekends previously..

Why do BBC1 schedule short bulletins away from the top of the hour, and then expect the news channel to interrupt their flow to provide a joint bulletin?! If it was a 15, 30 or 45 minute junction it wouldn't be so bad.. but I'm sure they've done five and ten past junctions recently which just look a little silly on N24.

Similarly, at 1pm (I think) today when it was midnight New Year in Sydney and in years gone by, the news channel would have gone live to the Sydney fireworks. Instead they were carrying a ten minute signed BBC1 bulletin. It was left to Sky to show Sydney - who then ruined it with their dubbed music and OTT graphics. This was the first time I've switched to Sky News (except for a laugh) in years, and will now be the last... but anyway, the point stands.


The News channel is so disjointed at the moment, I really do hope that in the new year the BBC One controllers will liase better with the News channel to get bulletins hitting on the hour or half hour where possible because it really does make the news channel look very amateur with the filler being shown and bulletins being repeated 15mins later.
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Anyone for the news channel doing this to spice the channel up? http://www.bbc.co.uk/comedy/clips/p00bpkwp/the_morecambe_and_wise_show_angelas_high_kick/ Wink
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Anyone for the news channel doing this to spice the channel up? http://www.bbc.co.uk/comedy/clips/p00bpkwp/the_morecambe_and_wise_show_angelas_high_kick/ Wink


Rib tickling Worzel, very very rib tickling Smile

Can't see it happening though, remember the BBC News Channel is there for one thing and one thing only - to provide news, in a straightforward manner, and at no times must it ever show signs of being innovative or distracting the viewer away from the news...
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Worzel
I know it will probably never happen but it would be nice to see the BBC try something like this come 2012 when they move to Broadcasting House.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hzafWs1bsHA&feature=related

A title sequence with the newsroom on it, a slightly fresher graphics package. Maybe we don't need the presenter walking from the pod to the desk but it would be good to see the BBC doing something a bit different.

Whether or not it will happen... it's still a thought.

(I always liked that Sky News look, branding and graphics - the schedule, well that was another matter but on screen it was pretty simple but very effective).
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I know it will probably never happen but it would be nice to see the BBC try something like this come 2012 when they move to Broadcasting House.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hzafWs1bsHA&feature=related

A title sequence with the newsroom on it, a slightly fresher graphics package. Maybe we don't need the presenter walking from the pod to the desk but it would be good to see the BBC doing something a bit different.

Whether or not it will happen... it's still a thought.

(I always liked that Sky News look, branding and graphics - the schedule, well that was another matter but on screen it was pretty simple but very effective).


Yuk.

It's all such unnecessary embellishment and decoration, from the cringeworthy staged interactions in the 'busy newsroom' to the bizarre triplication of video on the wall, to that wide shot with the presenter walking towards the desk.

What on earth do all of these elements add to the delivery of the news? That video came from a period of time when Sky News was haemorrhaging viewers to BBC News 24 - partly down to the new presentation paradigm, and partly down to the appointment-to-view scheduling changes - and the fact that even today, the BBC News Channel enjoys considerably larger audiences than Sky News does is a pretty clear indication that the majority of UK viewers don't have a great appetite for unnecessary bells and whistles in their news presentation. Even with its flat and simple graphics, and even with its unremarkable shoebox studio, and even with its lack of majestic sweeping newsroom shots, the BBC News Channel enjoys larger audiences than its flashy competitor.

So what would be the point of abandoning the key to its current success in favour of promoting elements that did nothing to improve the ratings of its key competitor?

Or is this just another example of you finding a YouTube video and deciding to share with us your wish that BBC News was more like it?

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