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Markymark
Bit annoyed with the Beeb, but all the news channels are guilty of this - it's those god-damned captions and the ticker. Gordon Brown is resigning and all you get is a sea of red and white boxes all over the screen.

I know I'm going to sound like a POV whinger, but couldn't they let the pictures speak for themselves?

Watching the NC, viewers missed shots of Gordon Brown's kids faces - obscured by 'BREAKING NEWS' in big capital letters, the car leaving was captured on a lovely sweeping shot - bit it was ruined with the car chopped off by the graphics, and the one that really riled me is that you then couldn't see Cameron and the Queen shaking hands as 'LATEST PICTURES' is completely covering up the handshake - the major focal point of the said latest picture.

I could offer some forgiveness if the graphics were helpful, but what did the ticker say when Gordon Brown was on the street resigning? "Gordon Brown is set to make a statement imminently."


To be blunt, there are some incredibly idiotic practices in use now. I'm not sure whether it's immaturity on the part of directors and editors, general lack of attention span of the production staff, or just a total absence of any common sense or proper thought about what's actually being broadcast. Dimbleby himself was swept into it last night too. He cut Robinson off in his prime, to allow Witchell to tell us Brown was arriving at Buck House (stating the bleeding obvious because we could see that for ourselves!) Then moments later cuts Witchell off for some other banal statement.

Perhaps they're only concerned how their showreels will look to their peers, but I can tell you this morning in my work place, talk at the 'water cooler' was how OTT and ridiculous the coverage of last night's events were, for exactly the reasons you outline.

Broadcasting is cutting its own throat at the moment, carry on the way it's going and it'll soon attain the fluffy joke status that the tabloid press has.
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Brekkie
The BBC seem to be worse than Sky now with their breaking news strap and ticker for events that happened hours ago. In recent weeks I think Sky have scaled back how they use it while the BBC seem to have gone in the opposite direction.

Agree too the big clunky graphics are not necessary - the pictures speak for themselves. Sky may still have the graphics but they're not as intrusive.
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DrewF
Graphics a bit of a mess in N8 at the moment, the BBC World News DOG is left in the corner and 'LIVE : Westminster' is still being shown during a clip from earlier.
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David
What is wrong with the News Channel? It has a World News DOG and they are showing the press conference from this afternoon with a live DOG.
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Mike516
BBC News Channel now with BBC World News DOG, and until 20 secs ago showing the replay of the Clegg/Cameron press conference with LIVE at the top left !!

EDIT: Snap!

EDIT: BBC News channel DOG is back.
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DrewF
It's back to normal now.
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Worzel
A little bit sloppy from the beeb tonight eh? Wink
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chris
59 second countdown into the ten there, and I'm firmly convince that the music up to 45 seconds sounds different to the usual countdown. I think there are some additional effects.

Also, the BBC seem to have dropped the idea of having a daytime countdown in daylight and a nighttime countdown at night. Seems a pretty simple concept to understand really...
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itsrobert Founding member
I agree that BBC News over-uses its breaking news devices. It's a shame, as the Beeb used to have it spot on during the early 2000s. Only since 2003 and particularly since 2007 have they become obsessed with breaking news. Most of the so-called 'breaking news' is completely obvious to the viewer and is usually of little significance. I recall seeing a 'breaking news' strap recently stating that a politician (I forget who) had arrived at Downing Street. Wow.

The other element to this is the length of time a story is considered breaking. BBC News has been in breaking news mode all day long today - they were still billing the 14:15 Cameron/Clegg press conference as 'breaking' just a couple of hours ago. Completely ridiculous. They need to get this sorted asap. The more they use it, the less effective it becomes. It's become so normal to see red everywhere when I switch on BBC News that I actually pay little attention to the so-called 'breaking news'.
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Phen
chris posted:
59 second countdown into the ten there, and I'm firmly convince that the music up to 45 seconds sounds different to the usual countdown. I think there are some additional effects.


Definitely. So let me get this straight - there are 2 different audio versions of the new countdown, with the only differences between the two being before 45 seconds. Why???
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Davidjb Founding member
I agree that BBC News over-uses its breaking news devices. It's a shame, as the Beeb used to have it spot on during the early 2000s. Only since 2003 and particularly since 2007 have they become obsessed with breaking news. Most of the so-called 'breaking news' is completely obvious to the viewer and is usually of little significance. I recall seeing a 'breaking news' strap recently stating that a politician (I forget who) had arrived at Downing Street. Wow.


It's not just the BBC who go overkill with breaking news these days, all media outlets seem to be guilty of it. Like you say some of the things they brand as breaking news really isn't as significant as they make it out to be.
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gilsta
The other element to this is the length of time a story is considered breaking. BBC News has been in breaking news mode all day long today - they were still billing the 14:15 Cameron/Clegg press conference as 'breaking' just a couple of hours ago. Completely ridiculous. They need to get this sorted asap. The more they use it, the less effective it becomes. It's become so normal to see red everywhere when I switch on BBC News that I actually pay little attention to the so-called 'breaking news'.


Exactly. When the flight restrictions caused by the ash cloud were lifted I had the TV on mute and it took me some time to notice the Breaking News had changed from "No Flights" to "Flights Allowed".

I almost felt they needed to colour-code the breaking news depending on how recently the news had broken.

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