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DD
DarkestDreams
chris posted:
chris posted:
How is it now used any differently to the above picture?


They don't seem to use any exciting camera angles any more, they've got rid of the little podium and the little walk that the sport presenters used to do, they're not using the screens to their full potential either.

The studio can look so good, as in the photo above. However they just seem to let it tick over, dull as ever.


They never used exciting camera angles. Has the podium gone? I thought I saw it the other day. There was no point to that little walk. They have never used the screens to their full potential. That picture you showed above is exactly the same as the TOTH I saw at 11am today apart from the red strap at the top.


I just don't personally think that what is actually quite a nice studio is used to its full potential, whereas straight after the rebrand, they used some nice camera work, little things like good use of the screens etc. which meant that this forum was flooded with comments about how 'amazing' it looked. Now it just looks stagnant and bland. I hope they go down the Sky route after the move to BH; a flexible studio with lots of presentation areas.
EO
eoin
...whereas straight after the rebrand, they used some nice camera work, little things like good use of the screens etc. which meant that this forum was flooded with comments about how 'amazing' it looked.

As far as I remember, the general consensus around here when News 24 moved to N6 was disappointment. That was certainly my impression, maybe I'm remembering this wrong. IMO the previous incarnation of the N6 Barco set was far nicer.
DA
Davidjb Founding member
...whereas straight after the rebrand, they used some nice camera work, little things like good use of the screens etc. which meant that this forum was flooded with comments about how 'amazing' it looked.

As far as I remember, the general consensus around here when News 24 moved to N6 was disappointment. That was certainly my impression, maybe I'm remembering this wrong. IMO the previous incarnation of the N6 Barco set was far nicer.


It was indeed mainly dissapointment around here when it moved. I personally still find the News Channel studio a little boring, feels very confined. I hope when they move to BH they have a much more welcoming presentation area.
WE
Westy2
Oops they started to put the wrong edition of 'The Politics Show' on just, the Nick Clegg one, not Cam the Sham.

They've fixed it now.
DA
David
Oops they started to put the wrong edition of 'The Politics Show' on just, the Nick Clegg one, not Cam the Sham.

They've fixed it now.


How did they fix it? Did the presenters come back and fill or did they just stop the wrong edition and play the correct edition without saying anything?

The 9pm TOTH came in a little early at 20:59 too.
WE
Westy2
Oops they started to put the wrong edition of 'The Politics Show' on just, the Nick Clegg one, not Cam the Sham.

They've fixed it now.


How did they fix it? Did the presenters come back and fill or did they just stop the wrong edition and play the correct edition without saying anything?

The 9pm TOTH came in a little early at 20:59 too.


Faded down audio, cut to studio, apology, roll correct edition.

TOTH was strange wasn't it? No weather either.

I guess it had something to with a change of programme.

(Politics Show should have been 830, but when I flicked on, it was 'The Bottom Line' instead. Presumbly the Obama breaking news had something to do with it?)
WO
Worzel
House posted:
chris posted:
How is it now used any differently to the above picture?


They don't seem to use any exciting camera angles any more, they've got rid of the little podium and the little walk that the sport presenters used to do, they're not using the screens to their full potential either.

The studio can look so good, as in the photo above. However they just seem to let it tick over, dull as ever.


Yep, and the 'Breaking News' sound effect has gone too.


They stopped the Breaking News effect in the relaunch - therefore isn't something that's stopped since that picture, as per the other comments. The studio is far too dark at the moment - whatever technical people on here say about N8 and N9 having poor lighting and lack of a 'studio' the general lighting to ordinary viewers is, in my opinion, far greater.


They did use the sound effect for the first couple of days. I have some recordings with it on.

Also, I remember when the presenter was talking to a guest on location and they'd talk to the guest on the Barco screens - they were in a box - rather than the use of half the wall - looked a lot tidier.
DV
DVDfever
This is my first post here so I hope I've got this right with the link. Cheers.

Amelia Harris looks surprised when Formula 1 report disappears (BBC News, 28.3.10)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ruJPJFV7vWU
DV
DVDfever
Got another one here Smile

Nina Ridge can't get her weather graphics to work! (BBC News, 29.3.10)
The panic in her voice at the start... Very Happy

And it's a shame they cut to a trailer (for Canoe Man) at the end as she looked in a panic to have a go at someone or something.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BwsfuwsLxzI
DA
Davidjb Founding member
This is my first post here so I hope I've got this right with the link. Cheers.

Amelia Harris looks surprised when Formula 1 report disappears (BBC News, 28.3.10)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ruJPJFV7vWU


One thing I have never understood when things like this happen is, the presenter knows there on as they can see themselves in the plasma behind the camera so why do they sometimes stand there looking like there not sure if they are on. I thought training for all presenters was if you think you're live, treat it as if you are.
DA
David
One thing I have never understood when things like this happen is, the presenter knows there on as they can see themselves in the plasma behind the camera so why do they sometimes stand there looking like there not sure if they are on. I thought training for all presenters was if you think you're live, treat it as if you are.


I wonder if she knew she was on but didn't know what to say as the autocue hadn't moved on to whatever she was meant to say after the report or maybe she knew she was in vision but she could still hear the audio from the report so didn't know if her microphone was live or not.
TE
tellywatcher
Oops they started to put the wrong edition of 'The Politics Show' on just, the Nick Clegg one, not Cam the Sham.

They've fixed it now.

Know this isn't really the right place to put this (not worth starting a new thread tbh!) but just thought I'd share and highlight how well I think the production crew who were brought in (Bow-Tie television) to do the OB's coped with the rather cramped/tight car park for the Politics Show! Being a King Ed's student, I was lucky enough to see the set-up and the prep involved for the show which aired on Sunday (recorded last Friday).
Quite how they managed to fit the props van, sat truck (when the show was live) and OB truck within the narrow confines of the car park, I don't know... but they managed some how.

http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t176/zukeylukey/DSC00214.jpg
(These are the trucks which back onto where the hall was located... also many students all waiting to see Cameron!)

Was also lucky enough to go into the main hall where all the filming was taking place (the final debate with David Cameron was filmed last Friday) and got to talk with the lighting director (one of the few who were actually from the BBC) as to how the hall was tricky to light and get right - and how he was bought in after the "shambles" of a first show (in his words!) to get it just perfect. Interesting to note, that he wanted to change to colour of the LED lights positioned around the hall to reflect to colour of the party... but the director didn't warm to this idea and wanted them to stay the normal Politics Show house colour (understandable really). He was also worried about the sun coming out through the main windows, which would have evidently caused many issues - so there were a team of people ready and waiting to rig filters onto the windows, should this have happened.

There was also an autocue controller/setup there too and got to talk to the man involved with this as to what it entailed. Seemed quite pointless to have the autocue there really (was only on the steadi-cam) as it was only used for the intro, handover to regions and closing sequences. Surely Jon could have learnt the lines?! After Jon came in and did a few rehearsals for his links and the positions he was supposed to be in - everything was ready for recording.
Was also priviledged to get the chance to shake Jon Sopel's hand too. Wink He was a really nice down to earth chap who took his time to speak to everyone (tbh, it was only me along with a few other politics students who knew who he was!). Was difficult to get a good shot, but here he is just below the Reception sign before Cameron arrived.

http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t176/zukeylukey/DSC00213.jpg

Bit annoyed I didn't take some pics of the set up from behind the cameras, but there wasn't really much to see... just a large plasma for the guests to view (VTs) and a stand for the steadi-cam operator who was there to put his camera on when it wasn't being used. Along with the lighting desk and autocue controller on the stage!

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