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Worzel
a516 posted:
Familiar piece of music from the past at the start of last night's Iraq enquiry news special at 9:31: http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b00qsv6t/The_Week_at_the_Iraq_Inquiry_Tony_Blair_at_the_Iraq_Inquiry/


Let's go back to 2003... Wink

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mU_FYP4c5po

I notice on the news multiscreen where the weather is shown - the sting between the loop is the old News 24 2003 titles.
MW
Mike W
a516 posted:
Familiar piece of music from the past at the start of last night's Iraq enquiry news special at 9:31: http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b00qsv6t/The_Week_at_the_Iraq_Inquiry_Tony_Blair_at_the_Iraq_Inquiry/


Let's go back to 2003... Wink

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mU_FYP4c5po

I notice on the news multiscreen where the weather is shown - the sting between the loop is the old News 24 2003 titles.


Also used by Midlands Today in 2007 for the Royal Show (how cheap).
IT
itsrobert Founding member
a516 posted:
Familiar piece of music from the past at the start of last night's Iraq enquiry news special at 9:31: http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b00qsv6t/The_Week_at_the_Iraq_Inquiry_Tony_Blair_at_the_Iraq_Inquiry/


Let's go back to 2003... Wink

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mU_FYP4c5po

I notice on the news multiscreen where the weather is shown - the sting between the loop is the old News 24 2003 titles.


The version of the countdown music used on the Iraq Inquiry titles is the 1999-2003 one, not 2003-2005. It's nice to hear it getting an outing again, even if it is just for a few seconds.
RI
RenII
Am enjoying Nick Owen's short comments during the cut-ins to the Australian Open final.

/Go Andy, Go! Very Happy
AN
Ant
a516 posted:
Familiar piece of music from the past at the start of last night's Iraq enquiry news special at 9:31: http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b00qsv6t/The_Week_at_the_Iraq_Inquiry_Tony_Blair_at_the_Iraq_Inquiry/


Let's go back to 2003... Wink

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mU_FYP4c5po

I notice on the news multiscreen where the weather is shown - the sting between the loop is the old News 24 2003 titles.


That countdown looks so much better than the current incarnation. The music is great too.

The days.
LO
looknorth
The days when zero meant zero too not the way it is now with that cheesy styled countdown ending Rolling Eyes Hopefully the news channel will get a decent makeover at the next revamp with a good set etc. Talking of studios does anyone know what the arrangements are likley to be for BH ? A proper studio for whats currently in TC7 and two newsroom sets for world/NC would be ideal with prehaps a smaller video cube area in the news channels set for the national news e.g a bit like N9 but with a larger newsrom set.
CH
chris
The days when zero meant zero too not the way it is now with that cheesy styled countdown ending Rolling Eyes Hopefully the news channel will get a decent makeover at the next revamp with a good set etc. Talking of studios does anyone know what the arrangements are likley to be for BH ? A proper studio for whats currently in TC7 and two newsroom sets for world/NC would be ideal with prehaps a smaller video cube area in the news channels set for the national news e.g a bit like N9 but with a larger newsrom set.


From what I gathered there will be a number of studios in the basement with one newsroom studio but it's not been confirmed what any of them will be used for. I'm hoping the News Channel will be in the newsroom studio.
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Worzel
Going back to what I said before about stand up presentation being used now and again.

BBC World News do it, it wouldn't hurt the presenters (during say 10am and 4pm) to do things from the wall from time to time (much like World News do in the clips below). I think I've only ever heard of it done once in the past 6 months of that - with Matthew Amroliwala at the wall where the sport and business comes from the day after the Barco's got changed - and that is it!

All this brand strengthening and World news have the presenters standing up and the news channel, they're desk-ridden for good.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C8Hr1z3w4hM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K9cYQtiMISM

It just looks so much better... why can't they just try it!

I can't help but think its because BBC World News is mainly funded by advertising and they have to put a bit more effort in to the presentation. I am probably wrong... but it's the gut feeling.
Last edited by Worzel on 1 February 2010 1:08am
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zack11
Feel like News Channel has been in a dazed mode for a while. They seem contend about the way they are especially after the move to their current studio. There isn't much creativity and there is no life on the channel.
Just yrs ago we use to be saying that about BBC WORLD but they have taken the bull by the horn and they are not contend on staying that way.

One thing that force BBC WORLD to change was the competition. There are so many players out there now you just can't sit back. For commercial reasons you have to stay ahead of the curve and the competition. One of the BBC WORLD managers said, with the big name presenters comes ad revenue and that distributors like when there are big names and personalities. I know there isn't anything for profit wise on the NC but where is the inspiration and attitude???

In the UK there isn't really that much competition. Sky had a revamp but BBC NC did nothing. Now Sky will have a major upgrade. What will the News Channel do by then. It seem they are just following Sky. When Sky revamp NC will follow next. I am afraid viewers might just stay with sky especially revamping during an election period. Doubt it if News channel will upgrade before Sky.
Whenever I watch the channel I feel like there isn't variety and the managers don't have that much options. They need a big shake up especially with Presenters. More personality like they way BBC WORLD has been doing and are about to go full throttle.
IM
its me
A normal countdown into the 5am BBC World News on BBC ONE/NC. The bulletin began with no sound, a breakdown caption soon followed, and then a crash into a recorded bulletin from earlier with Martine Croxall. 'RECORDED' appears in place of the clock and ticker.
ough totally

EDIT: Crash back to Jonathon charles and world news at 5.04am.
LO
looknorth
chris posted:
The days when zero meant zero too not the way it is now with that cheesy styled countdown ending Rolling Eyes Hopefully the news channel will get a decent makeover at the next revamp with a good set etc. Talking of studios does anyone know what the arrangements are likley to be for BH ? A proper studio for whats currently in TC7 and two newsroom sets for world/NC would be ideal with prehaps a smaller video cube area in the news channels set for the national news e.g a bit like N9 but with a larger newsrom set.


From what I gathered there will be a number of studios in the basement with one newsroom studio but it's not been confirmed what any of them will be used for. I'm hoping the News Channel will be in the newsroom studio.


I bet world get the newsroom set even though I would love to see the news channel back in one. The BBC don't seem to like presenting the national news from newsroom Rolling Eyes
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Worzel
Feel like News Channel has been in a dazed mode for a while. They seem contend about the way they are especially after the move to their current studio. There isn't much creativity and there is no life on the channel.
Just yrs ago we use to be saying that about BBC WORLD but they have taken the bull by the horn and they are not contend on staying that way.

One thing that force BBC WORLD to change was the competition. There are so many players out there now you just can't sit back. For commercial reasons you have to stay ahead of the curve and the competition. One of the BBC WORLD managers said, with the big name presenters comes ad revenue and that distributors like when there are big names and personalities. I know there isn't anything for profit wise on the NC but where is the inspiration and attitude???

In the UK there isn't really that much competition. Sky had a revamp but BBC NC did nothing. Now Sky will have a major upgrade. What will the News Channel do by then. It seem they are just following Sky. When Sky revamp NC will follow next. I am afraid viewers might just stay with sky especially revamping during an election period. Doubt it if News channel will upgrade before Sky.
Whenever I watch the channel I feel like there isn't variety and the managers don't have that much options. They need a big shake up especially with Presenters. More personality like they way BBC WORLD has been doing and are about to go full throttle.


I think you've hit the nail on the head there. As you say because BBC World News is commercially funded and relies on the advertising revenue so they have to remain ahead of the game. The news channel is funded by the public (and they should listen to the public!) so they get the money handed to them and can be totally laid back about the matter... which seems quite laxed.

Yes... N6 may not be the best studio for the news channel, but there are things that can be done to present the news in a less static 1980's fashion. Stand up presentation by the main presenters now and again - it won't hurt (every other news channel does it!) and is totally possible to achieve at the TOTH. The use of the Barco's behind the presenters to show a story which is being talked about (much like Al Jazeera English do), more interviews of a less serious nature done from the sport/business wall - much like the Film 24 presentation. Being stuck behind a desk all day - which acts as a big barrier between the viewer and the presenters is not good, even - present the weather from N6 on a more frequent basis.

As has been said in 2003, the BBC conducted a survey/enquiry into what was News 24 and one of the things that came out if that was to find different ways to present the news... stand up presentation with pictures was one way - but they seem to have gone back on that.

If you put the Journalistic/Editorial side of BBC News with Sky News' set and presentation ideas you'd have a superb channel.

As I say the BBC really need to look at the News channel because it is getting extremely stale. More can be done than modifying the daytime backdrop ever-so-slightly and switching the light box to red round the Barco's!

The BBC News channel will have to do something by the time Sky News relaunches (and more importantly Sky News HD launches) or they will be left in the slow lane. Look at what BBC World News has achieved with their set!
Last edited by Worzel on 1 February 2010 1:30pm - 4 times in total

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