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Worzel
Spencer For Hire posted:
bilky asko posted:
Worzel posted:
I notice the ticker on the news channel has started getting a bad bout of the Hippy Shakes again as one line finishes scrolling and another starts. It's either nervous or needs it's Temp files purging again! Smile


Last night (or this morning, or some time in the recent past during the night) there was a gap between the ticker and the straps for some reason. The clock and ticker (Not the "BBC News" part, however) disappeared momentarily, then it was fixed.


Same problem on Breakfast this morning too, with a gap around the clock.


Sounds like they need to purge the VizRT Temp files again.
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Worzel
They've been having some real problems with their Graphics and Ticker tonight.

The Ticker keeps coming on screen, displays 'HEADLINES' - fades off - and then there is no text scrolling - just the grey bar, followed by 'SPORT' and nothing again. Looks like they're trying to fix it as it keeps coming off and on screen.

BTW to the previous poster who said that the Ticker was lower than the clock the other day. Were the news channel simulcasting with BBC World News? It's only because the BBC News channel DOG/Clock and ticker sit slightly higher on screen so they are able to cover up the WN ones. So it sounds like they had the NC DOG/Clock on screen but the ticker was BBC WN's.
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BBC LDN
On the subject of graphics, I've seen two different animations for bringing on the BBC News logo during the 2130 weekday headline simulcast with BBC World News.

Quite often, the bulletin for News Channel viewers will start with a BBC World News DOG on screen; the BBC News logo then appears on top of it. I have previously seen the BBC News DOG and clock slide up together and obscure the BBC World News DOG beneath; more recently, a slightly more complicated version appeared, with a full width red box fading in over the BBC World News DOG, and then the black clock background wiping in from the right of the red box, before the BBC News logo and clock text appear.

Did the latter replace the former, and why? It seems like such a needless change - and if no change was made, does that mean there are two different animations for the DOG? That in itself seems rather indulgent given how deliberately uncomplicated the rest of the lower-third graphics are.
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bilky asko
Worzel posted:
They've been having some real problems with their Graphics and Ticker tonight.

The Ticker keeps coming on screen, displays 'HEADLINES' - fades off - and then there is no text scrolling - just the grey bar, followed by 'SPORT' and nothing again. Looks like they're trying to fix it as it keeps coming off and on screen.

BTW to the previous poster who said that the Ticker was lower than the clock the other day. Were the news channel simulcasting with BBC World News? It's only because the BBC News channel DOG/Clock and ticker sit slightly higher on screen so they are able to cover up the WN ones. So it sounds like they had the NC DOG/Clock on screen but the ticker was BBC WN's.


Yes, but the DOG/Clock was in line with the ticker. I'll make a little picture of what it looked like...
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rob Founding member
Somebody obviously didn't check Click this weekend for swear words Very Happy

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Jamesypoo
Has anybody else noticed the sheer lack of creativity these days when it comes to the use of N6?

For example, we used to have inserts behind the presenters for quite a few stories (http://newscentre.tv-uk.info/cms/media/bbc/news/daytime-studio/215.jpg and http://newscentre.tv-uk.info/cms/media/bbc/news/daytime-studio/220.jpg).

For the sport and business, they used to start with a wide shot (http://newscentre.tv-uk.info/cms/media/bbc/news/daytime-studio/139.jpg) and slowly zoom in on the presenter (http://newscentre.tv-uk.info/cms/media/bbc/news/daytime-studio/141.jpg), but now all we seem to get is the same shot all the way through.

We also used to get images used on the screens shown in those white boxes which didn't show the guest in a "OMG you're huge please don't eat us" type way like they often do now.

I just feel these little things might help the channel feel a little more interesting to watch - it seems a little like they can't be bothered any more to me. But hey maybe I'm alone!
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chris
dragonhhjh posted:
Has anybody else noticed the sheer lack of creativity these days when it comes to the use of N6?

For example, we used to have inserts behind the presenters for quite a few stories (http://newscentre.tv-uk.info/cms/media/bbc/news/daytime-studio/215.jpg and http://newscentre.tv-uk.info/cms/media/bbc/news/daytime-studio/220.jpg).

For the sport and business, they used to start with a wide shot (http://newscentre.tv-uk.info/cms/media/bbc/news/daytime-studio/139.jpg) and slowly zoom in on the presenter (http://newscentre.tv-uk.info/cms/media/bbc/news/daytime-studio/141.jpg), but now all we seem to get is the same shot all the way through.

We also used to get images used on the screens shown in those white boxes which didn't show the guest in a "OMG you're huge please don't eat us" type way like they often do now.

I just feel these little things might help the channel feel a little more interesting to watch - it seems a little like they can't be bothered any more to me. But hey maybe I'm alone!


I actually agree with you, but remember at this time there were far more bloopers. Even though they've reduced the gimics on BBC News, it's working now!
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Moz
dragonhhjh posted:
We also used to get images used on the screens shown in those white boxes which didn't show the guest in a "OMG you're huge please don't eat us" type way like they often do now.

I much prefer the way the fill the wall with guests now, the little white bordered boxes were awful and rightly scrapped.
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BBC LDN
Moz posted:
dragonhhjh posted:
We also used to get images used on the screens shown in those white boxes which didn't show the guest in a "OMG you're huge please don't eat us" type way like they often do now.

I much prefer the way the fill the wall with guests now, the little white bordered boxes were awful and rightly scrapped.


I'd personally quite like to see the return of the boxed version; whenever I see a giant head on the N6 displays - and the presenter not knowing exactly which of the person's enormous eyes they're supposed to be focusing on - I can't help but think back to a giant pair of a presenter talking to an enormous pair of legs at the bottom of a vast projection of a guest on Broken News (I think in their parody of the ITV Theatre of news).

It's a particularly absurd sight when the Sport or Business presenter is standing right next to the giant head on the screen.
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bilky asko
BBC LDN posted:

I'd personally quite like to see the return of the boxed version; whenever I see a giant head on the N6 displays - and the presenter not knowing exactly which of the person's enormous eyes they're supposed to be focusing on - I can't help but think back to a giant pair of a presenter talking to an enormous pair of legs at the bottom of a vast projection of a guest on Broken News (I think in their parody of the ITV Theatre of news).

It's a particularly absurd sight when the Sport or Business presenter is standing right next to the giant head on the screen.


Don't they have a shrunken version of the interviewee off-camera so the eye-line is supposedly better? Maybe that's why their direction looks a little wrong.
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Stuart
bilky asko posted:
Don't they have a shrunken version of the interviewee off-camera so the eye-line is supposedly better? Maybe that's why their direction looks a little wrong.

They do indeed. On the 'long' side wall in N6 it's displayed on the Barco screens (to the left of the large image) and has ocassionally drifted into shot. I presume on the 'short' side wall it's displayed on a monitor as we can normally see the edge of the Barco screens.
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aconnell
Newswatch is now on BBC NC, discussing the rebranding of BBC News, one year on.

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