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Isonstine
Founding member
"Your News" to me epitomises the problem with modern TV journalism, in so much as the journalists have stopped telling us how the world goes round and are each day delivering what Joe Public thinks it wants to consume.
I've worked in the sector and as much as begrudge bringing reality shows and the more rediculous stories into news bulletins, I realise it's all about light and shade and people seem to enjoy it so it will always get featured.
That's no so much the problem, more that there's an over reliance on people standing outside buildings just talking about well nothing. I'm not really interested in how many were waiting outside or what kind of activity there has been. All that detail can easily be reported within a nicely packaged item. It's telling us "facts" for the sake of it. To get background on anything these days you have to turn to Radio 4 or Newsnight. OK its always been the case that those kind of outlets will always deliver a little bit than the six o'clock news - but still.
My thoughts could are perfectly summed up by Adam Curtis in Charlie Brooker's Screenwipe special on TV news, which ironically features "Your News".
I've worked in the sector and as much as begrudge bringing reality shows and the more rediculous stories into news bulletins, I realise it's all about light and shade and people seem to enjoy it so it will always get featured.
That's no so much the problem, more that there's an over reliance on people standing outside buildings just talking about well nothing. I'm not really interested in how many were waiting outside or what kind of activity there has been. All that detail can easily be reported within a nicely packaged item. It's telling us "facts" for the sake of it. To get background on anything these days you have to turn to Radio 4 or Newsnight. OK its always been the case that those kind of outlets will always deliver a little bit than the six o'clock news - but still.
My thoughts could are perfectly summed up by Adam Curtis in Charlie Brooker's Screenwipe special on TV news, which ironically features "Your News".
CH
Well, I agree.
Those 'clinical noughties' random rubbish on a white background titles make me cringe. As do the clichéd out-takes at the end of each episode. Good riddance to it.
Hymagumba posted:
me too, if anyone needs shooting (with a camera i hope, boom boom) its the person who commissioned it in the first place. utter tripe.
Well, I agree.
Those 'clinical noughties' random rubbish on a white background titles make me cringe. As do the clichéd out-takes at the end of each episode. Good riddance to it.
TE
Here's the News Channel's Christmas effort - a 'virtual' tree added to the backdrop (which glistens too!).
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=72E32mImhd8
http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t176/zukeylukey/BBCNEWS2008-12-15_084434.jpg
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=72E32mImhd8
http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t176/zukeylukey/BBCNEWS2008-12-15_084434.jpg
ST
As far as I know he inormally just deals with Security, but since usual defence correspondent Caroline Wyatt is in Baghdad at the moment they probably just chose him to cover.
Newsroom posted:
Does Frank Gardner has a duel role as Defence and Security Correspondent? He was astoned this lunchtime as Defence... I'd always thought he was the Security Correspondent.
As far as I know he inormally just deals with Security, but since usual defence correspondent Caroline Wyatt is in Baghdad at the moment they probably just chose him to cover.
DV
No WNA tonight, The Record from BBC Parliament simulcast on the channel instead (at least the last 10 mins was)
RE
Just noticed another clever way of thinking by the BBC, although no doubt it's been happening for years.
So three BBC channels are simultaneously showing PMQs. BBC2 - fair enough, it's an analogue channel. BBC Parliament - well that's what the channel is for. But BBC news? What the hell is the point in having two digital channels which are next to each other and from the same broadcaster showing identical things? If I want to watch PMQs, I'll tune to BBC parliament. If I want the news, then I would expect to get it on BBC News.
I know PMQs is a parliamentary highlight, but there is no way anyone can rationally say that this is not a ridiculous thing to do.
So three BBC channels are simultaneously showing PMQs. BBC2 - fair enough, it's an analogue channel. BBC Parliament - well that's what the channel is for. But BBC news? What the hell is the point in having two digital channels which are next to each other and from the same broadcaster showing identical things? If I want to watch PMQs, I'll tune to BBC parliament. If I want the news, then I would expect to get it on BBC News.
I know PMQs is a parliamentary highlight, but there is no way anyone can rationally say that this is not a ridiculous thing to do.
HO
Though I can't see how the BBC News Channel could save money in showing this - it's graphical teams are still working (putting up astons, updating the ticker etc.) and most of their content, in terms of most of the reports and the newsreading-bits are already laid out and any major breaking news they'd leave Parliament for. I think the point is that most PMQs bring top stories for the news channel for the rest of the afternoon, where controversy, announcements or criticism has come into play by parliament. As BBC Parliament broadcasts parliament/ other political conferences and meetings (etc.) perhaps most people would assume it's too advance for them or simply not think of it. BBC News channel is also very good cutting it off - realising when the biggest news/ talk has been broken and instead moving to analysis/ other news, whereas BBC Parliament will broadcast until all the MPs have gone home.
Like you say, it's useful for PMQs to be broadcast on BBC 2's daytime political program, for all those without digital tv. And, like the BBC News Channel, the Daily Politics then analyses what was said - something that would be hard if viewers hadn't just seen it.
Revitt posted:
Just noticed another clever way of thinking by the BBC, although no doubt it's been happening for years.
So three BBC channels are simultaneously showing PMQs. BBC2 - fair enough, it's an analogue channel. BBC Parliament - well that's what the channel is for. But BBC news? What the hell is the point in having two digital channels which are next to each other and from the same broadcaster showing identical things? If I want to watch PMQs, I'll tune to BBC parliament. If I want the news, then I would expect to get it on BBC News.
I know PMQs is a parliamentary highlight, but there is no way anyone can rationally say that this is not a ridiculous thing to do.
So three BBC channels are simultaneously showing PMQs. BBC2 - fair enough, it's an analogue channel. BBC Parliament - well that's what the channel is for. But BBC news? What the hell is the point in having two digital channels which are next to each other and from the same broadcaster showing identical things? If I want to watch PMQs, I'll tune to BBC parliament. If I want the news, then I would expect to get it on BBC News.
I know PMQs is a parliamentary highlight, but there is no way anyone can rationally say that this is not a ridiculous thing to do.
Like you say, it's useful for PMQs to be broadcast on BBC 2's daytime political program, for all those without digital tv. And, like the BBC News Channel, the Daily Politics then analyses what was said - something that would be hard if viewers hadn't just seen it.