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r2ro
Media Boy posted:
r2ro posted:
Media Boy posted:
Worzel posted:
On a serious note though.

Shouldn't the evening backdrop newsroom be put up earlier on the news channel now the clocks have changed.

I only say because its pitch black outside come 8pm and they're still using the daytime backdrop in the winter months.

The night backdrop should be put on earlier at 8pm for example to give it a bit more continuity.


Isn't the Ten backing just a different way of lighting the newsroom to highlight the more moody/reflective nature of the Ten.
I don't think it's a 'window on the world' like the old N6 backings.
I think you'd be pretty pushed to see any 'outside windows' in the backing as it stands.


I'm sure there are two different backings - a daytime and nightime. ISTR a photo being put on here about a month ago where it broke so one half of the studio was daytime and the other nighttime, typically separated in between the two presenters.


I know there are 2 different backings, that was not my point.

My point was that the backings are not a 'window on the world', in simple terms, just becasue it's dark outside the backing should not necessarily be the darker one.

They are different becasue they are lit differently to help re-inforce the reflective nature of the TEN.


I see; I missed the point you were making. I can see now your argument that they don't have to reflect the outside world because they aren't meant to represent the outside world.

I think it would look good if the backing could change so that it is darker earlier and as suggested changing it in the Six could be a good idea. It's a shame that the Barco screens can break down at the changing of the backdrop - on a general note how reliable are they? Is it a case that they broke once whilst changing during the weather so as a precaution, changes through the weather are rarely used, or is it because they break down often?
JO
Joe
Do they break down when the backdrop is changed? I thought it was just when they were off, and even that doesn't happen anymore.
WO
Worzel
Jugalug posted:
Do they break down when the backdrop is changed? I thought it was just when they were off, and even that doesn't happen anymore.


I wouldnt have thought so, I'd of hoped they'd be pretty robust - considering they are designed to be used in busy environments... and they are certainly not cheap. The effect of the overlays is best seen at the London stock exchange when the presenter clicks the button and the windows fly over the backdrop.

I can't see why they cannot put the night backdrop up during the six, or at least dampen the lighting in the studio.

Also, is it a problem for BARCO screens not to match in brightness and contrast - I only ask as the only set of panneled screens I have ever seen match properly are those in the new N8.
DA
Davidjb Founding member
It appears that Newsnight is on the BBC News Channel now (20.00-21.00). It has Jeremy Paxman presenting from D.C. with a Newsnight backdrop & graphics. I pressume this is being recorded and will be used at least in part on BBC Two tonight?
SP
Steve in Pudsey
I thought the Newsnight special had been live on BBC2?
DA
Davidjb Founding member
Steve in Pudsey posted:
I thought the Newsnight special had been live on BBC2?


It could well have been, i didn't have access to BBC Two unfortunately to check.
DV
DVB Cornwall
Newsnight ...............

NC, 2 AND World
CD
cdd
This may have been posted before. I thought it was particularly charming

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-1083371/Here-nightie-time-news-Sophie-looks-dressed-bed.html
M
M@ Founding member
Good god! The Daily Mail really is a heap of sh*t isn't it!
NG
noggin Founding member
Jugalug posted:
Do they break down when the backdrop is changed? I thought it was just when they were off, and even that doesn't happen anymore.


There are three separate technologies at play here :

Barco Screens
Screen controller (not from Barco) that merges the various SD source windows and the HD background and chops the result up to feed the screens.
HD video server that plays the HD background (not from Barco)

The frozen backdrop happens when the video servers fall over (they are PC-base)

There are also issues if you re-set the screen controller, as it takes away the video feed from each Barco cube (which is addressed individually) and sometimes they don't come back that quickly.

It is not a great system - but I suspect it isn't the most expensive either...
BH
Bvsh Hovse
noggin posted:
It is not a great system - but I suspect it isn't the most expensive either...

I think that's a fair assesment given my experience of Barco kit.

If you buy a completly integrated solution from Barco then it usually behaves perfectly. However your pockets will be tens of thousands of pounds lighter. I thought that the wall modules could calibrate against each other to get a uniform picture without needing the Barco display wall controller though. Maybe these wall modules are a previous generation that doesn't include 'sense' , or it was an optional extra that was not purchased to keep the cost down.

If the past I've tried geting a row of 4 non-Barco DLP display wall modules to produce a uniform display and it wasn't easy. The range you consider close enough gets wider the longer you stand swearing at the things. I can only imagine the fun people must have had 10 years ago when they used CRT rear projection and had geometry and convergence problems to add to colour and brightness uniformity problems.
NG
noggin Founding member
Bvsh Hovse posted:
noggin posted:
It is not a great system - but I suspect it isn't the most expensive either...

I think that's a fair assesment given my experience of Barco kit.

If you buy a completly integrated solution from Barco then it usually behaves perfectly. However your pockets will be tens of thousands of pounds lighter. I thought that the wall modules could calibrate against each other to get a uniform picture without needing the Barco display wall controller though. Maybe these wall modules are a previous generation that doesn't include 'sense' , or it was an optional extra that was not purchased to keep the cost down.


Suspect you may need to add a nought to those figures for a wall that size.

AIUI the main news studios have older versions - but the BBC World (and Arabic) walls are newer and have the auto-calibration stuff.

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