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SP
Spencer
cityprod posted:
timgraham posted:
But if you have it letterboxed you're wasting 30% of your screen with black bars.

It depends on what you're watching, I usually have it letterboxed because most Australian channels use 14:9 safe areas and you miss bits any other way. But things like news don't need the glory of 16:9.


I wouldn't call black bars a waste of the screen, and I honestly think channels should now be setting themselves up graphically as 16:9 channels, rather than 4:3 channels with extra space on either side. We've had 10 years of transition, that's long enough.


The problem is that if you take graphics out of the 4:3 safe area, particularly in news, some viewers may lose important words from their screen. If someone, for example, watching in 4:3 couldn't see the 'Not' of 'Not Guilty', the broadcaster could conceivably be done for libel.

As for the argument as to the best format for watching programmes on a 4:3 set, I'd have said for many years that 16:9 letterbox was better. However, when my big widescreen TV broke a few years ago, and I had to resort to viewing on an old 14" portable 4:3, I found the picture from the other side of the lounge just too small in 16:9L, and ended up switching to 4:3 cutout. Having said that, the ideal solution would be if all set top boxes had a 14:9 Letterbox option, which usually seems like the best compromise for 4:3 sets.
NG
noggin Founding member
Yep - and whilst set top boxes are delivered with 4:3 centre-cut output as their default setting it will continue to be a real issue...
EY
the eye
eanokkf - Your YouTube features on the episode of Click im watching on BBC World at the moment lol
DV
DVB Cornwall
... more sloppyness on the ticker ...

Since when did the UK have a Foreign Minister? I thought we had a Foreign Secretary.
CI
cityprod
DVB Cornwall posted:
... more sloppyness on the ticker ...

Since when did the UK have a Foreign Minister? I thought we had a Foreign Secretary.


The Foreign Secretary is a Minister. And as such, the terms are usually interchangable. Except for the Home Secretary.
ST
Stuart
cityprod posted:
DVB Cornwall posted:
... more sloppyness on the ticker ...
Since when did the UK have a Foreign Minister? I thought we had a Foreign Secretary.

The Foreign Secretary is a Minister. And as such, the terms are usually interchangable. Except for the Home Secretary.

Not quite, cityprod. A Secretary of State is the head of a government department and a cabinet ranking post. A Minister of State is junior, not always of cabinet rank and there are many for each government department. I'm not sure who that name strap referred to, but it could have been one of many Foreign Office Ministers.

It would be incorrect to refer to David Miliband as "Foreign Minister" (his actual title is Secretary of State for the Foreign & Commonwealth Office), but if this was a BBC World News simulcast then "Foreign Minister" would perhaps be easier to understand for a non-UK audience.

I've seen Alistair Darling labelled as "British Finance Minister" on BBC World News before now, although that title wouldn't be recognised on a domestic broadcast.
CO
Connews
I'd assume avoidance of the term 'Chancellor' would be to prevent confusion with Germany's system, where the Chancellor is deemed equivalent to our prime minister.
IS
Inspector Sands
Connews posted:
I'd assume avoidance of the term 'Chancellor' would be to prevent confusion with Germany's system, where the Chancellor is deemed equivalent to our prime minister.


Yes, 'Finance Minister' would be used.

The problem is even more so when there's a 'meeting of finance ministers' - they can't use the terminology from by each country, they have to use generic terms
NG
noggin Founding member
cityprod posted:
DVB Cornwall posted:
... more sloppyness on the ticker ...

Since when did the UK have a Foreign Minister? I thought we had a Foreign Secretary.


The Foreign Secretary is a Minister. And as such, the terms are usually interchangable. Except for the Home Secretary.


The Foreign Secretary may be a minister as well, but there is more than one minister in the Foreign Office isn't there, so Foreign Secretary is the unambiguous title, as there is only one Foreign Secretary?
R2
r2ro
To go back to the debate over the aspect ratios, I don't have the luxury of changing the aspect ratio on the television as it's a ten year old portable.

timgraham posted:
But if you have it letterboxed you're wasting 30% of your screen with black bars.


I agree. The only thing I'll watched letterboxed is films. I'd rather a full screen, as long as it's in proportion so not stretched, than one full of useless black bars.
WO
Worzel
I wish they'd fix the wretched juddering ticker - its beginning to get annoying now!
DO
dosxuk
Worzel posted:
I wish they'd fix the wretched juddering ticker - its beginning to get annoying now!


Really? I'm sure you've not mentioned this before. Mad

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