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Chie
Wouldn't it be a very, very good idea to suspend the simulcasting of Breakfast on the News Channel during times like this? Even ending Breakfast early when the market opened at 8am this morning would have sufficed.
HO
House
Chie posted:
Wouldn't it be a very, very good idea to suspend the simulcasting of Breakfast on the News Channel during times like this? Even ending Breakfast early when the market opened at 8am this morning would have sufficed.
I don't see the merit in suspending the simulcast completely because then you have an additional two and a half hours to broadcast - a cost the beeb really can't afford. Also you have to consider are the NC actually ready to broadcast at 8am? Also there isn't always going to be big economic news every day of the week just because the market's opened, but maybe Breakfast could dedicate slightly more time towards interviews and in depth analysis on the specific days there is huge news (though personally I think Breakfast already supplies a great deal of business each morning).
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chris
imnogoth posted:
Chie posted:
Wouldn't it be a very, very good idea to suspend the simulcasting of Breakfast on the News Channel during times like this? Even ending Breakfast early when the market opened at 8am this morning would have sufficed.
I don't see the merit in suspending the simulcast completely because then you have an additional two and a half hours to broadcast - a cost the beeb really can't afford. Also you have to consider are the NC actually ready to broadcast at 8am? Also there isn't always going to be big economic news every day of the week just because the market's opened, but maybe Breakfast could dedicate slightly more time towards interviews and in depth analysis on the specific days there is huge news (though personally I think Breakfast already supplies a great deal of business each morning).


imnogoth, what are you talking about? Chie's thoughts are perfectly sound - Chie is saying that News 24 (just during this period of "Global Financial Crisis", when they can predict something important is to happen) they could break off half an hour earlier. News 24 can prepare half an hour earlier if they must...
HO
House
chris posted:
imnogoth posted:
Chie posted:
Wouldn't it be a very, very good idea to suspend the simulcasting of Breakfast on the News Channel during times like this? Even ending Breakfast early when the market opened at 8am this morning would have sufficed.
I don't see the merit in suspending the simulcast completely because then you have an additional two and a half hours to broadcast - a cost the beeb really can't afford. Also you have to consider are the NC actually ready to broadcast at 8am? Also there isn't always going to be big economic news every day of the week just because the market's opened, but maybe Breakfast could dedicate slightly more time towards interviews and in depth analysis on the specific days there is huge news (though personally I think Breakfast already supplies a great deal of business each morning).


imnogoth, what are you talking about? Chie's thoughts are perfectly sound - Chie is saying that News 24 (just during this period of "Global Financial Crisis", when they can predict something important is to happen) they could break off half an hour earlier. News 24 can prepare half an hour earlier if they must...
So are you suggesting the economic news is definately going to break at 8am every single morning, therefore the BBC need to ensure their staff, gallery and studio are available every morning half an hour earlier? And if you read my quote what I'm mainly referring to is suspending the simulcast totally - how many economists are going to be available to give interviews at 6 or 7am before any new economic news comes about?

Surely, seeing as we have such economic problems in the beeb's budgets, it would make more sense for Breakfast to dedicate more time to the economy in the 8-8.30 half hour?
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chris
imnogoth posted:
So are you suggesting the economic news is definately going to break at 8am every single morning, therefore the BBC need to ensure their staff, gallery and studio are available every morning half an hour earlier?


chris posted:
just during this period of "Global Financial Crisis", when they can predict something important is to happen


^ Please read.


imnogoth posted:
And if you read my quote what I'm mainly referring to is suspending the simulcast totally - how many economists are going to be available to give interviews at 6 or 7am before any new economic news comes about?


1) I know that there isn't any need to stop th simulcast entirely
2) Laughing To the economists - I'm sure they're not all lying in bed recovering from a night-out...


imnogoth posted:
Surely, seeing as we have such economic problems in the beeb's budgets, it would make more sense for Breakfast to dedicate more time to the economy in the 8-8.30 half hour?


No, because not every viewer wants to hear about the economy all the time. Breakfast has got it just right at the moment; going into it hear and there but not too much. Adding more would force me to switch off as I'm personally fed up of hearing about it.

Plus, do you really think broadcasting a mere half an hour extra once in a while is going to break the BBC Bank?! Laughing
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nat210790
IIRC during the 2005 General Election, News 24 broke away from Breakfast every morning (7:30 maybe?), so it has been done and I would agree that when there is a prolonged period of time where the same news dominates (as is now with the economy), it would be good to maybe start at 8 if they have received news that something important is brewing early in the morning, before the European markets (or the FTSE at least) open.

I would rather that they didn't simulcast Breakfast at all on the NC - someone will tell me now that this wouldn't be possible - but I'd rather see BBC World News from 5-8am (which I think is the length of the early morning anchor's shift) and then start at 8 on the NC. This would cost more money yes with the 8:30-11 shift extended by 30 minutes, but in a perfect world....
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spotlightsouthwest
nat210790 posted:
IIRC during the 2005 General Election, News 24 broke away from Breakfast every morning (7:30 maybe?), so it has been done and I would agree that when there is a prolonged period of time where the same news dominates (as is now with the economy), it would be good to maybe start at 8 if they have received news that something important is brewing early in the morning, before the European markets (or the FTSE at least) open.

I would rather that they didn't simulcast Breakfast at all on the NC - someone will tell me now that this wouldn't be possible - but I'd rather see BBC World News from 5-8am (which I think is the length of the early morning anchor's shift) and then start at 8 on the NC. This would cost more money yes with the 8:30-11 shift extended by 30 minutes, but in a perfect world....


Totally agree. Then there is a choice - Breakfast OR World News with extensive business programming in the form of World Business Report (something that would be of interest - remember Business Breakfast?) There's no reason that they couldn't simulcast the BBC World News from 8.00 to 8.30GMT either.
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itsrobert Founding member
spotlightsouthwest posted:
nat210790 posted:
IIRC during the 2005 General Election, News 24 broke away from Breakfast every morning (7:30 maybe?), so it has been done and I would agree that when there is a prolonged period of time where the same news dominates (as is now with the economy), it would be good to maybe start at 8 if they have received news that something important is brewing early in the morning, before the European markets (or the FTSE at least) open.

I would rather that they didn't simulcast Breakfast at all on the NC - someone will tell me now that this wouldn't be possible - but I'd rather see BBC World News from 5-8am (which I think is the length of the early morning anchor's shift) and then start at 8 on the NC. This would cost more money yes with the 8:30-11 shift extended by 30 minutes, but in a perfect world....


Totally agree. Then there is a choice - Breakfast OR World News with extensive business programming in the form of World Business Report (something that would be of interest - remember Business Breakfast?) There's no reason that they couldn't simulcast the BBC World News from 8.00 to 8.30GMT either.


I haven't watched BBC World in a long time but I seem to recall the reason given for not simulcasting World on N24 was because of the 0745 edition of Sport Today which N24 didn't have the rights for. I'm fairly certain it was to do with sporting rights.
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gregmc
The studio doesnt look too bad in this shot. I do think they should use the screens a lot more than they do - for example the Sky News Newswall showing relevant graphics to the story, and not just on angled shots!

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3178/2924386153_f551a1a997.jpg
MA
themagicmonkey
The studio might not look bad - the presenters are another matter altogether!
MB
Media Boy
gregmc posted:
The studio doesnt look too bad in this shot. I do think they should use the screens a lot more than they do - for example the Sky News Newswall showing relevant graphics to the story, and not just on angled shots!

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3178/2924386153_f551a1a997.jpg


You can't honestly think that this is a good shot? I mean what does GLOBA CR mean??
If it was just graphical images, money, coins etc then it would look quite strong, and I have seen some good strong images used on that shot, but honestly that's just ludicrous...
EY
the eye
gregmc posted:
The studio doesnt look too bad in this shot. I do think they should use the screens a lot more than they do - for example the Sky News Newswall showing relevant graphics to the story, and not just on angled shots!

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3178/2924386153_f551a1a997.jpg


Awful?

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