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SP
Steve in Pudsey
looknorth posted:
If I was in charge I would have moved world to TC7 all TC7 shows to N6 and news channel and national news to N8


So you'd give the most expensive studio to run to World? The studio which is arguably the least suited to rolling news because it's quite some distance from the newsroom being a main block studio rather than in the spur.
LO
looknorth
Steve in Pudsey posted:
looknorth posted:
If I was in charge I would have moved world to TC7 all TC7 shows to N6 and news channel and national news to N8


So you'd give the most expensive studio to run to World? The studio which is arguably the least suited to rolling news because it's quite some distance from the newsroom being a main block studio rather than in the spur.


Yes I would because it looks better on screen than N6 for world but the news channel should be in the current N8. Why was world put in there anyway insted of the news channel.

I think N6 should have followed this makeshift world set for inspiration for there current one the bars and floor make the newsroom look real.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rSU8TxLX6EE And at least its a proper screenshot of N9s newsroom at the time.
JO
Joe
Yes, because that's look amazing, doesn't it?
MA
themagicmonkey
Who is the BBC's Baghdad correspondent now? I noticed the last guy (can't remember his name sorry!) was back reporting in the UK for Newsnight.
PE
Pete Founding member
I don't understand why you want to swap TC7 and N6 aside from the fact you can show off that you know some studio names. Putting big studio productions like Working Lunch into a small cupboard is ridiculous, as is having a rolling news channel from a vast full size studio.
ST
Stuart
Hymagumba posted:
I don't understand why you want to swap TC7 and N6 aside from the fact you can show off that you know some studio names. Putting big studio productions like Working Lunch into a small cupboard is ridiculous, as is having a rolling news channel from a vast full size studio.

I have to agree with Hyma here. There are so many programmes which couldn't be produced from N6 if they were transferred from TC7. The two Sunday morning programmes for a start, without extra staff to completely re-dress the set between 10:00 and 11:30. Swapping set furniture from Breakfast to Working Lunch to Newsround to Newsnight each weekday and the fact they wouldn't look as good in a small studio.

I'm sure noggin can advise here, but from what information I have gleaned in the past, there isn't an easily accesible route for set furniture to N6. Whereas TC7 is served in the same way as the other main production studios around the central doughnut.

That's before you even start on why BBC News would need the space available in TC7. OK, N6 isn't the same as being in N8 with the background of the newsroom, but I don't think it damages the channel in any way. It's just different.
NG
noggin Founding member
The current News Channel/BBC One studio, and the current BBC World studios, are not general purpose studios. They don't have flexible lighting rigs, nor do they have scenery storage and access.

There is no way that you could permanently move Newsnight, Working Lunch, Breakfast, Newsround, The Andrew Marr Show, The Politics Show and Newsnight Review into the current BBC One / News Channel studio. You'd have to shoot them all on the same set, with all the people sat/stood in the same positions.

Doing Breakfast and the One/Six/Ten in the same studio was about as far is you could go (they built some large cupboards in the corridor to store the sofa in...)
LO
looknorth
StuartPlymouth posted:
Hymagumba posted:
I don't understand why you want to swap TC7 and N6 aside from the fact you can show off that you know some studio names. Putting big studio productions like Working Lunch into a small cupboard is ridiculous, as is having a rolling news channel from a vast full size studio.

I have to agree with Hyma here. There are so many programmes which couldn't be produced from N6 if they were transferred from TC7. The two Sunday morning programmes for a start, without extra staff to completely re-dress the set between 10:00 and 11:30. Swapping set furniture from Breakfast to Working Lunch to Newsround to Newsnight each weekday and the fact they wouldn't look as good in a small studio.

I'm sure noggin can advise here, but from what information I have gleaned in the past, there isn't an easily accesible route for set furniture to N6. Whereas TC7 is served in the same way as the other main production studios around the central doughnut.

That's before you even start on why BBC News would need the space available in TC7. OK, N6 isn't the same as being in N8 with the background of the newsroom, but I don't think it damages the channel in any way. It's just different.


They could have at least used a live shot of a newsroom though like the 1999 national news set to at least make it look real.
LO
looknorth
Paul Clark posted:
tellywatcher posted:
Interestingly, if you turn up the sound just before the globe appears, the director can be heard speaking, saying something along the lines of "...a menu loop would be lovely."

I knew there was an almost-silent twittering in the right channel before the filler kicks in; I may have detected it earlier but the volume controls on this compy of mine can't be pushed high enough to detect what is said, so it needed further boosting.

As much as I can get, is something along the lines of:

"...2 please I know there's nothing there right now, I know [there] won't be for a few more seconds...Menu loop would be lovely...Coming to 6C sound and vision please, take 6..."

...And that's all I get, before the (comparatively blaring) filler music fades up and deafens my straining ears - brilliant! Laughing


A loop menu would work with the full loop coundown used in the backround as a climax ending was designed for and end if the BBC decided to use it as a counting coundown if you know what I mean and it can be heard hear in the second countdown in the link. I think it sounds better than the normal TOTH countdown. I supose they could stick some little contdown numbers beside the menu.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JNaZK4VJgVc&NR=1
WO
Worzel
looknorth posted:
StuartPlymouth posted:
Hymagumba posted:
I don't understand why you want to swap TC7 and N6 aside from the fact you can show off that you know some studio names. Putting big studio productions like Working Lunch into a small cupboard is ridiculous, as is having a rolling news channel from a vast full size studio.

I have to agree with Hyma here. There are so many programmes which couldn't be produced from N6 if they were transferred from TC7. The two Sunday morning programmes for a start, without extra staff to completely re-dress the set between 10:00 and 11:30. Swapping set furniture from Breakfast to Working Lunch to Newsround to Newsnight each weekday and the fact they wouldn't look as good in a small studio.

I'm sure noggin can advise here, but from what information I have gleaned in the past, there isn't an easily accesible route for set furniture to N6. Whereas TC7 is served in the same way as the other main production studios around the central doughnut.

That's before you even start on why BBC News would need the space available in TC7. OK, N6 isn't the same as being in N8 with the background of the newsroom, but I don't think it damages the channel in any way. It's just different.


They could have at least used a live shot of a newsroom though like the 1999 national news set to at least make it look real.


The fake newsroom is OK, its just the ropey mismatched BARCO screens which let it down most of all - watching a persons head on the video wall is interesting - half their head dark, half light, one screen with a blue tint and one with a white tint for example. N8's screens seem perfectly colour matched and co-ordinated, so why are N6's all over the place? Noggin maybe able to answer that.

Do they callibrate them in the morning or something, or ever?
JW
JamesWorldNews
themagicmonkey posted:
Who is the BBC's Baghdad correspondent now? I noticed the last guy (can't remember his name sorry!) was back reporting in the UK for Newsnight.


Mike Sergeant is the current. Jim Muir is the former.
HO
House
BBC WORLD posted:
themagicmonkey posted:
Who is the BBC's Baghdad correspondent now? I noticed the last guy (can't remember his name sorry!) was back reporting in the UK for Newsnight.


Mike Sergeant is the current. Jim Muir is the former.
And Andrew North who has just returned from Iraq to UK presenting. Saw him doing a report on gang culture in London the other day.

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