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nat210790
itsrobert posted:
jrothwell97 posted:
Another cock-up at the 9pm junction. The Doctor Who trailer started, and then partway through it froze and then mixed to the countdown. Can they not do basic subtraction in the gallery?


I didn't see the event you describe, but couldn't it have just been a case of the trailer crashing rather than human intervention?


The exact same thing happened at 7.
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Matrix
nat210790 posted:
itsrobert posted:
jrothwell97 posted:
Another cock-up at the 9pm junction. The Doctor Who trailer started, and then partway through it froze and then mixed to the countdown. Can they not do basic subtraction in the gallery?


I didn't see the event you describe, but couldn't it have just been a case of the trailer crashing rather than human intervention?


The exact same thing happened at 7.


It seems to have happened quite a few times this week. It looked like the trailer was deliberately crashed out of with 7 secs on the countdown.
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snarfu
It was mentioned that the News Channel budget was greater than SKy. This maybe true but remember the BBC has a far larger newsgathering operation than Sky and therefore access to more correspondants and journalists. That is a lot of the added cost. For example, look at the large bureaus that the BBC maintain in Washington, Moscow, Delhi and Singapore. Some of the costs of these bureaus will be shared with World Service but these and many others cost money to maintain.

Sky have probably spent a lot more on their studio than the BBC and as I said before it is a newer facility as opposed to a refurbished facility.
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rob Founding member
A 65 second countdown into the News at 10 last night...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aUzC6AjUfBQ
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Worzel
Well what a mess opting out of the One into the News Channel! Maxine's Microphone wasn't on so they were blatantly using Simon's Microphone while he was leaving so we were greeted with screachy chairs and muffled sound! LOL.
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Worzel
snarfu posted:
It was mentioned that the News Channel budget was greater than SKy. This maybe true but remember the BBC has a far larger newsgathering operation than Sky and therefore access to more correspondants and journalists. That is a lot of the added cost. For example, look at the large bureaus that the BBC maintain in Washington, Moscow, Delhi and Singapore. Some of the costs of these bureaus will be shared with World Service but these and many others cost money to maintain.

Sky have probably spent a lot more on their studio than the BBC and as I said before it is a newer facility as opposed to a refurbished facility.


So one would assume when they move into BH in 2011/2012 they will have a more capable studio and also, will it be larger?
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rob Founding member
itsrobert posted:
jrothwell97 posted:
Another cock-up at the 9pm junction. The Doctor Who trailer started, and then partway through it froze and then mixed to the countdown. Can they not do basic subtraction in the gallery?


I didn't see the event you describe, but couldn't it have just been a case of the trailer crashing rather than human intervention?


Trailer in Question (YouTube)
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SN2005
snarfu posted:
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Sky have probably spent a lot more on their studio than the BBC and as I said before it is a newer facility as opposed to a refurbished facility.


Of course they did. Sky News had been in a glorified warehouse for 15 years of course they'll splash out £20m future-proofing themselves because they'll probably never ever have the opportunity to move again. It is a purpose built facility.
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snarfu
And the old News 24 and current BBC World News broadcast from a glorified office. The current News Channel studio is not much better as is still really a space designed for offices.
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Worzel
They fluffed up the TOH again.

The graphics captions weren't right (well at least on a couple of headlines until the caught up). When showing a clip about John Leslie it crashed with a clip of an Art Portrait from a later Headline thus it kept flicking between John Leslie and that clip. The gallery didn't kill the Mic's during the titles so thus you were greeted with paper shuffling and whispering and muttering over them.

How difficult is it to get a TOH sequence right?
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newsjunkie Founding member
It's actually very difficult. Many news programmes you watch will pre record their headlines. It uses the gallery to it's limits
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itsrobert Founding member
newsjunkie posted:
It's actually very difficult. Many news programmes you watch will pre record their headlines. It uses the gallery to it's limits


That's right. ITV News pre-record their opening sequences about 10-15 minutes before transmission. When you think about how many clips, sounds and graphics need to be lined up in such a short space of time, it's not surprising ITN opt to pre-record them. The BBC always do theirs live so hats off to the gallery teams because the vast majority of them pass by without incident.

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