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CR
Critique
The repeat of the Andrew Neil Interviews at 00:30 throwing up a bit of an issue for the NC - as it's so 28 minutes long it doesn't give them time to do the standard 60 second news summary for NC & World alike before the two split up again, so instead a brief weather forecast and headlines at :28, allowing them to get into the interview just before half past and have enough room for the weather! Presumably World got a separate summary at :30, if so it does beg the question as to why there were so many references to BBC World News in the summary?!
BA
Bail Moderator
Are the BBC going to fix (replace) the screen in the main studio, it has screen burn. The one with the newsroom behind it on the right.

I'm pretty sure they're aware of things like this, they annoy them just as much, but it's finding budget to replace these things thats more often the hold up. Screens like that aren't cheap and have lasted considerably well if you think they've been on permanently now for over 4 years solid.
MI
m_in_m
Bail posted:
Are the BBC going to fix (replace) the screen in the main studio, it has screen burn. The one with the newsroom behind it on the right.

I'm pretty sure they're aware of things like this, they annoy them just as much, but it's finding budget to replace these things thats more often the hold up. Screens like that aren't cheap and have lasted considerably well if you think they've been on permanently now for over 4 years solid.

Presumably they might also want them to be identical. I certainly do when giving desks dual screens.
RK
Rkolsen
Bail posted:
Are the BBC going to fix (replace) the screen in the main studio, it has screen burn. The one with the newsroom behind it on the right.

I'm pretty sure they're aware of things like this, they annoy them just as much, but it's finding budget to replace these things thats more often the hold up. Screens like that aren't cheap and have lasted considerably well if you think they've been on permanently now for over 4 years solid.

Presumably they might also want them to be identical. I certainly do when giving desks dual screens.


I remember reading an article about on set displays (from a manufacturer) recommending that you buy an extra or two. The reasoning is that apparently panel quality varies by batch. Somehow even with professional calibration you still may not get them aligned. Of course that really matters for bezel less monitor walls and LED titles.
MA
Markymark
Bail posted:
Are the BBC going to fix (replace) the screen in the main studio, it has screen burn. The one with the newsroom behind it on the right.

I'm pretty sure they're aware of things like this, they annoy them just as much, but it's finding budget to replace these things thats more often the hold up. Screens like that aren't cheap and have lasted considerably well if you think they've been on permanently now for over 4 years solid.


They're not hugely expensive these days. I've just bought some destined for the production stack in a UHD OB truck, 600 quid for 40 inch models. You'd want something better than that for 'in vision' ( ironically!) with easy facilities to alter the colour balance, and be nice and bright, and easy to match with others, so perhaps 3k ?
NG
noggin Founding member
Bail posted:
Are the BBC going to fix (replace) the screen in the main studio, it has screen burn. The one with the newsroom behind it on the right.

I'm pretty sure they're aware of things like this, they annoy them just as much, but it's finding budget to replace these things thats more often the hold up. Screens like that aren't cheap and have lasted considerably well if you think they've been on permanently now for over 4 years solid.


They're not hugely expensive these days. I've just bought some destined for the production stack in a UHD OB truck, 600 quid for 40 inch models. You'd want something better than that for 'in vision' ( ironically!) with easy facilities to alter the colour balance, and be nice and bright, and easy to match with others, so perhaps 3k ?


Real problem is finding suitable replacements for in-vision plasmas. LCDs are still dodgy off-axis... (Think the screen in question is an LCD - but the real issue is finding a decent plasma replacement)
BA
bilky asko
Aren't LG pushing their "wallpaper" OLEDs for digital signage? Maybe they're also destined to be on screen?
NG
noggin Founding member
Aren't LG pushing their "wallpaper" OLEDs for digital signage? Maybe they're also destined to be on screen?


Yes - be interesting to see how bright OLEDs go.
SE
seamus
Isn't the big screen in Studio C LED, but a bit blurry since it has a diffuser due to the poor dot pitches of c. 2012 displays? Things have gotten significantly better for LED broadcast displays, as seen on MSNBC:

http://www.newscaststudio.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/velshi-ruehl-anchors.jpg

I can imagine some display upgrades happening throughout NBH in the near future, especially since I imagine the current sets will remain until 2020 at the earliest.
DO
dosxuk
Isn't the big screen in Studio C LED, but a bit blurry since it has a diffuser due to the poor dot pitches of c. 2012 displays? Things have gotten significantly better for LED broadcast displays, as seen on MSNBC:


Nothing to do with the age of the display, and entirely down to the budget available and what they wanted to do with it. There were very low pitch screens available in 2012, but if you're only going to use them at a distance, and for background imagery, often in soft focus, it was, and still is, a waste of money to go putting them in.
SE
seamus
Isn't the big screen in Studio C LED, but a bit blurry since it has a diffuser due to the poor dot pitches of c. 2012 displays? Things have gotten significantly better for LED broadcast displays, as seen on MSNBC:


Nothing to do with the age of the display, and entirely down to the budget available and what they wanted to do with it. There were very low pitch screens available in 2012, but if you're only going to use them at a distance, and for background imagery, often in soft focus, it was, and still is, a waste of money to go putting them in.


Not to veer too much off topic, but I am certain that low pitch screens have greatly reduced in price and feasibilty over the past 5 years. Bloomberg, Sky, and NBC (even WNBC) are using them now.
MA
Markymark


Not to veer too much off topic, but I am certain that low pitch screens have greatly reduced in price and feasibilty over the past 5 years. Bloomberg, Sky, and NBC (even WNBC) are using them now.


Yes, driven by the digital signage market, something that has expanded greatly in recent years.

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