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CH
chris
OK so in effect, if the News Channel doesn't pay for it entirely - then it wouldn't be going out on the NC anyway - because they couldn't afford it. So Sam Taylor is still wrong - it is reducing choice for viewers - and it is a cost saving measure for the NC - even if only partly so. That's not what was stated on Newswatch.


I don't understand why they can't just be honest? Reduced funding = reduced content.
LL
London Lite Founding member
Wrong.
It's 'part funded' by BBC Two.
Whatever BBC Two pay - it most certainly doesn't cover the cost of the show.


I thought there was no money for daytime output on BBC Two excluding The Daily Politics?
CH
chris
Wrong.
It's 'part funded' by BBC Two.
Whatever BBC Two pay - it most certainly doesn't cover the cost of the show.


OK so in effect, if the News Channel doesn't pay for it entirely - then it wouldn't be going out on the NC anyway - because they couldn't afford it. So Sam Taylor is still wrong - it is reducing choice for viewers - and it is a cost saving measure for the NC - even if only partly so. That's not what was stated on Newswatch.


I've just watched Newswatch. He actually said it's created by the news journalists rather than anything about funding. It didn't answer the question about cost-cutting but he didn't say anything factually inaccurate.

This is the first time I've watched the programme in ages and it is awful, isn't it? Why do they have the viewers on webcams? What does it add? Just poor quality video and sound by the looks of it, and must be less representative of the public. Who really goes to the effort to record a video compared to writing an email or text? Text on screen would be much better IMO.

They also seem to have no problem with broadcasting inaccuracies from the viewers' comments. The Travel Show, Click etc. are at least in part (or are perhaps completely?) funded by BBC World News. So providing half an hour of live content in each and every one of those slots no doubt would be more expensive than making a half hour show that can be repeated on both BBC News and BBC World News.
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LL
London Lite Founding member
chris posted:
They also seem to have no problem with broadcasting inaccuracies from the viewers' comments. The Travel Show, Click etc. are at least in part (or are perhaps completely?) funded by BBC World News. So providing half an hour of live content in each and every one of those slots no doubt would be more expensive than making a half hour show that can be repeated on both BBC News and BBC World News.


The NC acquires those programmes from BBC World News. No idea on the cost, but there is for those shows.

There's also a confusing situation where for example when Biz Live is on, who is being paid by the licence fee or BBC Global News Ltd as you'll find one presenter who then works on BBC World News and the other on the NC. Some evenings, Victoria Fritz, who I believe is a licence fee funded employee covers for Tanya Beckett, a BBC World News presenter on the PM edition, to which there had to be some bureaucratic pen pushing to ensure each part of the BBC is paid to use her services.
IL
i-lied
I think that some changes are good but others are bad. With the risk of getting into fantasy rota terrority, I think Newsroom Live should be 8:30-9:30 & 12-1 with Biz Live at 9:30 and an hour of VD (as it's part funded) with updates from the balcony as now at 10

In the late evening, the quality I think has gone downhill too, as Sportsday now has only 7-9 minutes of airtime (and no sports update until 0145 now). They can't go through the papers in detail anymore either.
LL
London Lite Founding member
Next Monday, BBC London's Mayoral Debate will air in the Newsnight repeat slot.
MO
Moz
Sam Taylor has to go. The channel has got worse and worse since he took over.

Bring back proper 24/7 BBC News 24!
VM
VMPhil
Moz posted:
Sam Taylor has to go. The channel has got worse and worse since he took over.

Bring back proper 24/7 BBC News 24!

What makes you think it's entirely his fault? There are other forces at work here.
MA
Markymark
Moz posted:
Sam Taylor has to go. The channel has got worse and worse since he took over.

Bring back proper 24/7 BBC News 24!

What makes you think it's entirely his fault? There are other forces at work here.


Indeed. I really don't understand why the BBC don't openly declare these are economies, brought on by
the government's freezing of the licence fee. It's a fact, so state it FFS !
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SJ
sjhoward
Moz posted:
Sam Taylor has to go. The channel has got worse and worse since he took over.

Bring back proper 24/7 BBC News 24!

What makes you think it's entirely his fault? There are other forces at work here.


Indeed. I really don't understand why the BBC don't openly declare these are economies, brought on by
the government's freezing of the licence fee. It's a fact, so state it FFS !


Because, regardless of the rationality of the argument, it never ends well when the BBC public declares that it is cutting funding for news while continuing to pay for Strictly Come Dancing / Joey Essex / Can't Touch This / Eastenders / Holby City / whatever this week's light entertainment lightning-rod of the week happens to be.
SR
SomeRandomStuff
Moz will probably disagree with everything i am about to say... ho hum. Wink

Ditch BBC News channel altogether - air BBC World News sans adverts & sponsors in the UK.

Creatively schedule both editions of the channel in tandem so as to maximise the use of studios/staff.

For example... World News presenters give UK news during the breaks and back half hours where needed. Replace some front half hour programmes with UK only opts during peak UK viewing times. or... When International viewers are watching a recorded programme, Domestic viewers see UK News.

Ditch all the simulcasts of BBC One/Two etc programmes.
No Breakfast, No Derbyshire, No PMQ's, No 1, 6 & 10, No Newsnight. The World News programmes are being made anyway why not allow UK viewers to choose what they want to watch instead of having the same programme on several separate channels.

...and fix the damn ticker its embarrasing.
HC
Hatton Cross
Can I remind you that the BBC mission value is to 'inform, educate and entertain'

Something it does quite well. And, guess what?
Because of that statement, it'll make and broadcast programmes that you don't like or would not want to watch.
It's called public service broadcasting.

Seems to me, you would revise that mission statement to be 'inform, educate, and err..'

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