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WO
Worzel
There's a promo airing for Our World with a very strange shaped BBC News box logo.

Haven't been able to cap it but it went out just before the 9pm top of hour.
MD
mdtauk
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RN
Rolling News
When presenters on the News Channel are dispatched to cover events at places such as Downing Street, Westminster, Buckingham Palace and other UK cities, do they still have an autocue to rely on?
SP
Steve in Pudsey
The locations you mentioned are all very well connected to NBH, getting an extra reverse vision feed for the prompt is likely to be no more difficult then sending the Studio B prompt to Salford for the Marr news bulletin

I suspect that doing it for satellite contributions could be more challenging, but if the delays don't work for the conventional method I suspect that downloading the script to a local device (even an iPad) with a prompt app controlled by somebody on site is not too difficult these days.
RK
Rkolsen
The locations you mentioned are all very well connected to NBH, getting an extra reverse vision feed for the prompt is likely to be no more difficult then sending the Studio B prompt to Salford for the Marr news bulletin

I suspect that doing it for satellite contributions could be more challenging, but if the delays don't work for the conventional method I suspect that downloading the script to a local device (even an iPad) with a prompt app controlled by somebody on site is not too difficult these days.

AutoScript has EPIC IP where they load the prompter text ahead of time over IP, is generated on site and as it’s moving it sends out very low amounts worth of data, if there’s updates they’re sent as well. It’s very and from the demos I’ve seen with prompters connected via internal IP, SDI, iPads, iPhones, remote displays powered by cell phone connections there wasn’t any lag.
MA
Markymark
The locations you mentioned are all very well connected to NBH, getting an extra reverse vision feed for the prompt is likely to be no more difficult then sending the Studio B prompt to Salford for the Marr news bulletin

I suspect that doing it for satellite contributions could be more challenging, but if the delays don't work for the conventional method I suspect that downloading the script to a local device (even an iPad) with a prompt app controlled by somebody on site is not too difficult these days.

AutoScript has EPIC IP where they load the prompter text ahead of time over IP, is generated on site and as it’s moving it sends out very low amounts worth of data, if there’s updates they’re sent as well. It’s very and from the demos I’ve seen with prompters connected via internal IP, SDI, iPads, iPhones, remote displays powered by cell phone connections there wasn’t any lag.


Yes, I recently set up an Epic IP Autoscript system using just a domestic grade WiFi access points. Multiple devices, all in perfect sync scattered around a site. We did update the APs to Ubiquity devices, rather than using mass market stuff from Amazon
RK
Rkolsen
The locations you mentioned are all very well connected to NBH, getting an extra reverse vision feed for the prompt is likely to be no more difficult then sending the Studio B prompt to Salford for the Marr news bulletin

I suspect that doing it for satellite contributions could be more challenging, but if the delays don't work for the conventional method I suspect that downloading the script to a local device (even an iPad) with a prompt app controlled by somebody on site is not too difficult these days.

AutoScript has EPIC IP where they load the prompter text ahead of time over IP, is generated on site and as it’s moving it sends out very low amounts worth of data, if there’s updates they’re sent as well. It’s very and from the demos I’ve seen with prompters connected via internal IP, SDI, iPads, iPhones, remote displays powered by cell phone connections there wasn’t any lag.


Yes, I recently set up an Epic IP Autoscript system using just a domestic grade WiFi access points. Multiple devices, all in perfect sync scattered around a site. We did update the APs to Ubiquity devices, rather than using mass market stuff from Amazon


How well do you think it or it’s iPad app work in the field? How much data would be needed for an hour and the average bitrate needed once the scripts loaded?
MA
Markymark
AutoScript has EPIC IP where they load the prompter text ahead of time over IP, is generated on site and as it’s moving it sends out very low amounts worth of data, if there’s updates they’re sent as well. It’s very and from the demos I’ve seen with prompters connected via internal IP, SDI, iPads, iPhones, remote displays powered by cell phone connections there wasn’t any lag.


Yes, I recently set up an Epic IP Autoscript system using just a domestic grade WiFi access points. Multiple devices, all in perfect sync scattered around a site. We did update the APs to Ubiquity devices, rather than using mass market stuff from Amazon


How well do you think it or it’s iPad app work in the field? How much data would be needed for an hour and the average bitrate needed once the scripts loaded?


The data rate is tiny I think, you’re probably talking only 100s of k, even after an hour ?
RK
Rkolsen

Yes, I recently set up an Epic IP Autoscript system using just a domestic grade WiFi access points. Multiple devices, all in perfect sync scattered around a site. We did update the APs to Ubiquity devices, rather than using mass market stuff from Amazon


How well do you think it or it’s iPad app work in the field? How much data would be needed for an hour and the average bitrate needed once the scripts loaded?


The data rate is tiny I think, you’re probably talking only 100s of k, even after an hour ?


So it could do well even in a congested environment. Plus I think there’s the local control option.
TE
Technologist
Text is a very low data rate ....
If you assume that speech is 3 words a second and each word is say 10 letters
That is say 32 bytes 256 bits/sec raw data rate ..
With error correction etc it may be twice or even four times this
but that has still only 1kbit/sec
A bit mapped run length encoded caption in a readable font of what is being said (aka subtitles)!
Are on average around 24 kbits /sec
See this log from BBC news channel http://en.digitalbitrate.com/dtv.php?mux=BBCA-PSB1&pid=4352&sec=0&live=9&lang=en&af=1
GM
Gary McEwan
10 o' Clock is all out of sync yet again. Even the opt out headlines was a mess. We had Graham Stewart but had a Sportsday headline played over the top of him...
SP
Steve in Pudsey
That sounds like a screw up in your particular region/nation if they managed to mix and match their intended opt and network material.

When you say out of sync are you referring to the audio and video lip sync?

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