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DV
dvboy
Happens more often than you think, but the selfie stick is usually held out of shot and the earphone cable hidden behind the ear or a wireless one used.
LL
London Lite Founding member
I've seen selfie stick lives on Euronews.
MA
Markymark
I don't think I've ever seen a live report filmed by selfie stick before (it was more obvious in motion, of course):

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Needs must, I suppose...


You beat me to it, I know the Beeb are strapped for cash, but come on, this is the sort of crap you'd expect from That's TV.

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Last edited by Markymark on 24 January 2019 7:48am
CH
chris
It’s unlikely to be cost, more time. If you haven’t got a camera op near Tbilisi then your only option is to use an iPhone or have no live at all.

Sometimes I feel no live at all and just a two-way in a studio is better because poor quality can be distracting.
NG
noggin Founding member
I don't think I've ever seen a live report filmed by selfie stick before (it was more obvious in motion, of course):

*

Needs must, I suppose...


You beat me to it, I know the Beeb are strapped for cash, but come on, this is the sort of crap you'd expect from That's TV.

15 quid on Amazon for a basic tripod, (Other tripod vendors are available)
https://www.amazon.co.uk/PEMOTech-Lightweight-Smartphone-Compatible-Stabilizer/dp/B014ZYH6J4?ref_=fsclp_pl_dp_4


I think people are missing the point here. In previous years this coverage would have been audio-only on a mobile phone.
MA
Markymark
chris posted:
It’s unlikely to be cost, more time. If you haven’t got a camera op near Tbilisi then your only option is to use an iPhone or have no live at all.

Sometimes I feel no live at all and just a two-way in a studio is better because poor quality can be distracting.


It's not the use of the iphone that I've got an issue with, far from it. It's the use of a selfie stick, and the wobbly
image. It doesn't exactly ooze gravitas and professionalism. It was a pointless live (as so often is these days) for the sake of it, the local time was 2am, so the rest of the city were in bed. It would have been better as a talking head from a 'studio' or hotel room, or just voice only over some footage. The reporter should have the basics to be able to mount her phone
available to her, I've seen better equipped tourists.
LH
lhx1985
the sort of crap you'd expect from That's TV.


Has That's ever managed a live from anywhere? Selfiestick or otherwise?
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BR
Brekkie
Just be thankful that live tweeting between reporter and newsreader doesn't count as a live cross yet.

How they credit in situations like this is interesting - saw the interviews with the father of the victim yesterday credited as "speaking via the internet", whilst in the past Skype may have got an online credit. I don't particularly see the need to credit a video call - it's not like when they called in via mobile that they'd say "speaking via O2".
NG
noggin Founding member
Just be thankful that live tweeting between reporter and newsreader doesn't count as a live cross yet.

How they credit in situations like this is interesting - saw the interviews with the father of the victim yesterday credited as "speaking via the internet", whilst in the past Skype may have got an online credit. I don't particularly see the need to credit a video call - it's not like when they called in via mobile that they'd say "speaking via O2".


At one point it was in Skype's Ts and Cs that you had to credit them if you used their technology (which they provided for no cost) for broadcast use. If you wanted to use Skype and stay legal (though whether the Ts and Cs were ever tested in court...) you had to credit. (I'm sure lots didn't)

It's a bit tricky to compare a paid-for commercial telephony provider that interoperates on an international telecoms standard with a freely provided proprietary video calling platform.

However, now Skype is part of Microsoft and has replaced their Lync corporate VOIP system, it may well be corporate licensing deals have changed. Skype have accepted broadcast on-air use of their platform implicitlyby buying Cat and Mouse (who at that time largely specialised in game show systems but had developed a very effective Skype system for broadcast use) and launched the SkypeTX system for on-air.
MA
Markymark
the sort of crap you'd expect from That's TV.


Has That's ever managed a live from anywhere? Selfiestick or otherwise?


Reports 'to camera' with or without selfie sticks, don't have to be live. Cool
MA
Markymark

However, now Skype is part of Microsoft and has replaced their Lync corporate VOIP system, it may well be corporate licensing deals have changed. Skype have accepted broadcast on-air use of their platform implicitlyby buying Cat and Mouse (who at that time largely specialised in game show systems but had developed a very effective Skype system for broadcast use) and launched the SkypeTX system for on-air.


https://www.skype.com/en/legal/broadcast/
SS
SuperSajuuk
Maybe this is an issue that only occurred on the online stream, but from midnight, all the sound from BBC News seemed heavily bassed, if you compare it to the hour immediately before, it was normal but then became very bassed as soon as it moved over to the simulcast.

I would record it, but i dont believe there is a way to record app sound output on iOS.

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