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NthnRw
Moz posted:
BBI45 posted:
I'd have thought they would go for the Monday of the first full week of the year (7th January).

There is more behind-the-scenes development work going on with the news website. I’d expect the font to be rolled out as part of that. Hence why it’s not just a case of toggling a switch now it’s January 1st.

I’m surprised they haven’t made the main BBC homepage Reith yet. You’d have thought as it’s only one page, and the shop front, they’d used the ‘new face of the BBC’ there by now!

Your wish has been answered (for me at least)
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BBI45
Reeta Chakrabarti on Afternoon Live, but that only seems to have been for the first hour, as at 3pm, it was Ben Brown. It sounds like it was unexpected, because Darren Bett's pre-recorded weather sequence for TOTH was referring to the host as though Reeta was there. Given that last point, I guess she had to leave the studio unexpectedly Sad

Afternoon Live was also wrapped up by the business presenter. Looks like Ben Brown had to stand in at the last minute, before presenting News at Five.
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AlexS
Reeta Chakrabarti on Afternoon Live, but that only seems to have been for the first hour, as at 3pm, it was Ben Brown. It sounds like it was unexpected, because Darren Bett's pre-recorded weather sequence for TOTH was referring to the host as though Reeta was there. Given that last point, I guess she had to leave the studio unexpectedly Sad

May well be that the 6 and 10 presenter is unavailable at the last minute so Reeta has moved over to cover those. Alternatively could be the end of Xmas rotas causing a shortage of presenters more generally so Ben and Reeta have both done parts of afternoon live on top of other shifts today (which may or may not be on air).
MO
Moz
Moz posted:
There is more behind-the-scenes development work going on with the news website. I’d expect the font to be rolled out as part of that. Hence why it’s not just a case of toggling a switch now it’s January 1st.

I’m surprised they haven’t made the main BBC homepage Reith yet. You’d have thought as it’s only one page, and the shop front, they’d used the ‘new face of the BBC’ there by now!

Your wish has been answered (for me at least)

Yeah - for me too! Sure it wasn't last time I looked, but it's certainly Reith now!

Don't like the 'Welcome to the BBC' bit - would like to see that in Reith Serif.
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SuperSajuuk
Once again, the quarter-past hour of the national bulletin has a problem with the sidewalk camera facing the desk, although they very quickly got the camera turned round, rather than launching into the report. Twice in one week to two different presenters on two different network bulletins.... I hope someone can fix that issue soon (as the funny side of it has passed for me)

Also Reeta on the News at Six would confirm previous posters theories that she was required to switch rotas at last minute.
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Rolling News
AlexS posted:
Reeta Chakrabarti on Afternoon Live, but that only seems to have been for the first hour, as at 3pm, it was Ben Brown. It sounds like it was unexpected, because Darren Bett's pre-recorded weather sequence for TOTH was referring to the host as though Reeta was there. Given that last point, I guess she had to leave the studio unexpectedly Sad

May well be that the 6 and 10 presenter is unavailable at the last minute so Reeta has moved over to cover those. Alternatively could be the end of Xmas rotas causing a shortage of presenters more generally so Ben and Reeta have both done parts of afternoon live on top of other shifts today (which may or may not be on air).

According to Twitter Clive Myrie was supposed to do the Six/Ten but is unwell so Reeta is doing them.


Must say Reeta looked pretty cool doing Afternoon Live. Really suited her!
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Worzel
AlexS posted:
Reeta Chakrabarti on Afternoon Live, but that only seems to have been for the first hour, as at 3pm, it was Ben Brown. It sounds like it was unexpected, because Darren Bett's pre-recorded weather sequence for TOTH was referring to the host as though Reeta was there. Given that last point, I guess she had to leave the studio unexpectedly Sad

May well be that the 6 and 10 presenter is unavailable at the last minute so Reeta has moved over to cover those. Alternatively could be the end of Xmas rotas causing a shortage of presenters more generally so Ben and Reeta have both done parts of afternoon live on top of other shifts today (which may or may not be on air).

According to Twitter Clive Myrie was supposed to do the Six/Ten but is unwell so Reeta is doing them.


Must say Reeta looked pretty cool doing Afternoon Live. Really suited her!


Surprised Jane Hill hasn't covered that slot yet!
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Markymark
Just noticed on the Surrey Police chief DTL interview on Breakfast, the live camera is 50i, but the keyed in background loop video is 25p. <facepalm>
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thegeek Founding member
Just noticed on the Surrey Police chief DTL interview on Breakfast, the live camera is 50i, but the keyed in background loop video is 25p. <facepalm>

At least they're the same aspect ratio. I've seen DTLs in the past where the camera was 16:9 but the background was 4:3.
Steve in Pudsey, Markymark and Rkolsen gave kudos
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Rkolsen
Just noticed on the Surrey Police chief DTL interview on Breakfast, the live camera is 50i, but the keyed in background loop video is 25p. <facepalm>


Since you brought up frame rate does the BBC run all their cameras in 50i? Don’t current cameras allow you to choose frame rate so say photogs in North America (and South Korea) and the bureaus shoot in 50i instead of the typical 59.94 in those regions?

Curious as if the conversion to 50i and back to 59.94 for North America would degrade the picture quality? And if they don’t shoot 50i but the 59.94 what does the conversion the vision mixer or another device.
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Markymark
Just noticed on the Surrey Police chief DTL interview on Breakfast, the live camera is 50i, but the keyed in background loop video is 25p. <facepalm>


Since you brought up frame rate does the BBC run all their cameras in 50i? Don’t current cameras allow you to choose frame rate so say photogs in North America (and South Korea) and the bureaus shoot in 50i instead of the typical 59.94 in those regions?

Curious as if the conversion to 50i and back to 59.94 for North America would degrade the picture quality? And if they don’t shoot 50i but the 59.94 what does the conversion the vision mixer or another device.


All studio cameras for news and live pres etc in the UK usually run at 50i [1]. I don't know what the conventions are at UK broadcasters' bureaux in '60 Hz' territories ?

[1] Except of course for UHD, where it'll be 50p
Last edited by Markymark on 5 January 2019 6:03pm - 2 times in total
NG
noggin Founding member
Just noticed on the Surrey Police chief DTL interview on Breakfast, the live camera is 50i, but the keyed in background loop video is 25p. <facepalm>


Since you brought up frame rate does the BBC run all their cameras in 50i? Don’t current cameras allow you to choose frame rate so say photogs in North America (and South Korea) and the bureaus shoot in 50i instead of the typical 59.94 in those regions?

Curious as if the conversion to 50i and back to 59.94 for North America would degrade the picture quality? And if they don’t shoot 50i but the 59.94 what does the conversion the vision mixer or another device.


All studio cameras for news and live pres etc in the UK usually run at 50i [1]. I don't know what the conventions are at UK broadcasters' bureaux in '60 Hz' territories ?

[1] Except of course for UHD, where it'll be 50p


The BBC News teams and bureaux based overseas almost always follow local frame rate standards. To do otherwise would make pooling, sharing and accessing local content much more complex. So the US BBC operations run at 59.94i (or i29.97 if you prefer that way of saying things) and standards convert. This also avoids the lighting flicker issues you still encounter when running at a different frame rate to local mains. This is particularly an issue on new CMOS cameras without global shutters.

In cases where a crew from London travels to a 60Hz country to shoot content and comes back to the UK to edit, they may chose to stick at 50Hz, but will have to cope with lighting flicker.

Mainstream productions in 60Hz territories will take a common sense decision based on what they are doing.

If you are running local presentation of a sporting event shot at 60Hz, with discharge lit backdrops running at 60Hz, and taking lots of ISOes at 60Hz, then running your operation 60Hz and converting the result makes sense. Also most US trucks are only ever run at 60Hz, and whilst technically the kit may cope at 50Hz, there is every chance that something may not be compatible, or crews may not be used to 50Hz-working. (It's usually stuff like domestic HDTVs in the US that won't accept a 50Hz input *)

If you are creating your own show entirely, shooting your own content, and using your own fly-pack facilities, or a European truck shipped over (yes - that happens!), then running 50Hz can make a lot of sense, as it allows you to bring over content shot 25/50Hz for insert play-in without double conversion (25/50->60->50) or having to remember to shoot & edit inserts in 24/30/60Hz, and avoids conversion at all. However you do have to have a plan to cope with lighting flicker.

(*) ISTR that a US broadcaster with British Open Golf rights (TBS?) chose to remotely produce their coverage in the US, backhauling multiple 50Hz feeds, running their studio at 50Hz, and just converting the end result (not every feed). The biggest issue they hit was in-vision displays not accepting 50Hz inputs... Whilst all European HDTVs sold in shops happily accept 59.94/60Hz feeds, many North American models still don't accept 50Hz.

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