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AS
AlexS
The BBC1 weekend bulletins hardly require the use of studio E so there is no reason why the early evening Saturday and Sunday evening bulletins can't come from D. They could also use the same presenter for the London regional news straight after so it'd save a salary in that respect as well.
BF
BFGArmy
Or maybe they just shouldn’t simulcast such a short and awkwardly-timed bulletin in the first place?


The only difficulty there being that the News Channel is in E so they'd have to either decamp to another studio for a bit or simulcast yet more of BBC World News (which they already at 9pm).

BBC One is always going to take priority over the News Channel with good reason. In the situation where the BBC One bulletin is at at 5 or 10 past the hour, it's surely easiest to do another extended weather forecast and long countdown or just a sports bulletin at the top of the hour rather than the full TOTH only to then fill until the BBC One bulletin.

The bigger issue for me is why they bring in somebody just to read the BBC One bulletins.
Last edited by BFGArmy on 18 November 2018 7:15pm
AN
all new Phil
Or maybe they just shouldn’t simulcast such a short and awkwardly-timed bulletin in the first place?


The only difficulty there being that the News Channel is in E so they'd have to either decamp to another studio for a bit or simulcast yet more of BBC World News (which they already at 9pm).

BBC One is always going to take priority over the News Channel with good reason. In the situation where the BBC One bulletin is at at 5 or 10 past the hour, it's surely easiest to do another extended weather forecast and long countdown or just a sports bulletin at the top of the hour rather than the full TOTH only to then fill until the BBC One bulletin.

The bigger issue for me is why they bring in somebody just to read the BBC One bulletins.

The BBC One bulletin should just come from somewhere else. No disruption at all then.
LL
London Lite Founding member
AlexS posted:
The BBC1 weekend bulletins hardly require the use of studio E so there is no reason why the early evening Saturday and Sunday evening bulletins can't come from D. They could also use the same presenter for the London regional news straight after so it'd save a salary in that respect as well.


It works perfectly fine for ITV London where the network ITV News presenter on a Saturday evening then presents the London bulletin straight after and lunchtimes during the week.
Worzel and all new Phil gave kudos
BF
BFGArmy
Or maybe they just shouldn’t simulcast such a short and awkwardly-timed bulletin in the first place?


The only difficulty there being that the News Channel is in E so they'd have to either decamp to another studio for a bit or simulcast yet more of BBC World News (which they already at 9pm).

BBC One is always going to take priority over the News Channel with good reason. In the situation where the BBC One bulletin is at at 5 or 10 past the hour, it's surely easiest to do another extended weather forecast and long countdown or just a sports bulletin at the top of the hour rather than the full TOTH only to then fill until the BBC One bulletin.

The bigger issue for me is why they bring in somebody just to read the BBC One bulletins.

The BBC One bulletin should just come from somewhere else. No disruption at all then.


In reality though the BBC are clearly going to prioritise the bulletin on the main channel which gets millions of viewers over the channel watched by a few thousand.
Studio E is essentially the national bulletin studio that the news channel uses when it’s not used by the BBC One bulletins - especially as News Channel content is presented from Studios B, C and the weather balcony as well as E.
WO
Worzel
We've just had one of those weekend BBC One News bulletins at 17:05 plus a news channel full top of hour at 17:00 moment.

Carole Walker read the top of hour headlines, full titles played, a short intro into a 1 minute Dominic Raab piece on Marr only for the filler to play, Mishal pops up with the same headlines and intro again on the BBC One simulcast, so news channel viewers were greeted with the same headlines sequence and opening script twice in 3 minutes.


This sort of thing really is twattery of the highest order. They should either drag out stuff in the preceding NC hour to delay the TOTH until xx:05, or never schedule BBC One weekend/holiday bulletins with start times anywhere between e.g. xx:01 and xx:15 (so that the NC can at least have a decent quarter-hour stride, between a TOTH and having to "restart" for the benefit of BBC One).

Maybe if the TOTH headlines themselves didn't last a fortnight, even the awkward 5-minute difference might not be so bad.

If they must insist on having BBC One bulletins at xx:05 but also don't want to delay the TOTH, then they should go straight from the countdown to the title sequence with no preceding headlines. Then treat the 5-minute NC slot as a self-contained snappy bulletin that whizzes through several main stories in brief (a bit like the weekday Breakfast regional bulletins).


It happened a few months ago where they did a full TOTH with headline and titles only for Shaun Ley to say straight out of the titles that we'd be joined by viewers on BBC One for a full round up of the news. The filler then played and we had the same thing again with Kate Silverton. There wasn't even time to run a package out of the titles.
AN
all new Phil

The only difficulty there being that the News Channel is in E so they'd have to either decamp to another studio for a bit or simulcast yet more of BBC World News (which they already at 9pm).

BBC One is always going to take priority over the News Channel with good reason. In the situation where the BBC One bulletin is at at 5 or 10 past the hour, it's surely easiest to do another extended weather forecast and long countdown or just a sports bulletin at the top of the hour rather than the full TOTH only to then fill until the BBC One bulletin.

The bigger issue for me is why they bring in somebody just to read the BBC One bulletins.

The BBC One bulletin should just come from somewhere else. No disruption at all then.


In reality though the BBC are clearly going to prioritise the bulletin on the main channel which gets millions of viewers over the channel watched by a few thousand.
Studio E is essentially the national bulletin studio that the news channel uses when it’s not used by the BBC One bulletins - especially as News Channel content is presented from Studios B, C and the weather balcony as well as E.

Do those millions of viewers care if it comes from studio E or not? The best thing for ALL viewers is for the BBC One bulletin to not be simulcast. Studio D, with a globe background on the screens - would be perfectly acceptable.
LL
London Lite Founding member
It's not like D hasn't been used for the NC bulletins before, complete with the awful faux balcony backdrop.
AS
AlexS
The BBC One bulletin should just come from somewhere else. No disruption at all then.


In reality though the BBC are clearly going to prioritise the bulletin on the main channel which gets millions of viewers over the channel watched by a few thousand.
Studio E is essentially the national bulletin studio that the news channel uses when it’s not used by the BBC One bulletins - especially as News Channel content is presented from Studios B, C and the weather balcony as well as E.

Do those millions of viewers care if it comes from studio E or not? The best thing for ALL viewers is for the BBC One bulletin to not be simulcast. Studio D, with a globe background on the screens - would be perfectly acceptable.

No reason to use anything other than the fake newsroom backdrop that they use in D when E is out of use at weekends. Many of the weekend bulletins are basically a string of reports with no lives or in studio correspondents so a smaller studio will have no effect on them.
SW
Steve Williams
AlexS posted:
No reason to use anything other than the fake newsroom backdrop that they use in D when E is out of use at weekends. Many of the weekend bulletins are basically a string of reports with no lives or in studio correspondents so a smaller studio will have no effect on them.


Fifteen minutes in to the Sunday evening news, and we've already had four live two-ways.
CR
Critique
The Sunday late news is effectively a continuation of the Mon-Fri News at Ten, no? Generally consistent on the presenter front, most weeks airing at a fixed time, and using the 10 branding etc. If the Saturday teatime news were to air at 6pm, they still probably wouldn't use the Six branding I'd have thought, but this is a proper bulletin, and the longest one they do at weekends I think? They even use the #BBCNewsTen hashtag on screen as with the weekday bulletins.
SN
The SNT Three
The Sunday late news is effectively a continuation of the Mon-Fri News at Ten, no? Generally consistent on the presenter front, most weeks airing at a fixed time, and using the 10 branding etc. If the Saturday teatime news were to air at 6pm, they still probably wouldn't use the Six branding I'd have thought, but this is a proper bulletin, and the longest one they do at weekends I think? They even use the #BBCNewsTen hashtag on screen as with the weekday bulletins.


Yes - and IIRC Fiona Bruce used to present Sundays alongside the Friday Ten O'Clock News. The early evening bulletin was often fixed at 7:35pm which was very late for the 'teatime' bulletin. I haven't seen Fiona on a weekend for a long time but as you say, it is much more consistent than the other days.

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