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MI
m_in_m
London Lite posted:
AlexS posted:
SuperSajuuk posted:
It's possible, but even with the reduced shift, they could still very easily use the balcony studio much more often for weather broadcasts, or indeed have multiple weather broadcasters throughout the day, since the weather bulletins are basically timed like this:
* 8.30am - 12pm: Simon King from Salford (random presenter from GS studio if Simon not available)
* 12.30pm - 6.30pm: Presenter through News at One, Afternoon Live, News at Five, News at Six (with 1.30 - 2.30pm, 4.30pm and 5.30 - 6.30pm being live broadcasts, the rest all pre-recorded)
* 7pm - 11pm: Another presenter, most of which is pre-recorded segments (but with a chance of 7pm and 9pm being live)
* 12am - 8.30am: Overnight presenter, with only the 12am TOTH being live, the rest is pre-recorded / Breakfast simulcasts

If breaks are the issue, then the 6 hour broadcast shift of weather could be split up by two presenters, one for the named bulletins at 1pm, 5pm and 6pm, and another for Afternoon Live/NC broadcasts. I believe the same shift schedule happens for weekends, though the morning is far less and there are many more pre-recorded bulletins used.

The weather presenters also appear on radio and sometimes world during their shifts and may provide guidance to the autocue readers in the regions who pretend to know about meteorology (the few regions with properly qualified forecasters have less interaction with London from what I've read in the past.


If I recall, there's a daily conference between the nations and regions on-duty presenter and BH.

Is that with the on screen forecaster or would that be covers by the duty producer?
LL
London Lite Founding member
m_in_m posted:
London Lite posted:
AlexS posted:
The weather presenters also appear on radio and sometimes world during their shifts and may provide guidance to the autocue readers in the regions who pretend to know about meteorology (the few regions with properly qualified forecasters have less interaction with London from what I've read in the past.


If I recall, there's a daily conference between the nations and regions on-duty presenter and BH.

Is that with the on screen forecaster or would that be covers by the duty producer?


With the on-screen presenter.
MI
m_in_m
Few points from tonight's bulletin.

Firstly I wish they would put remove the image on the desk screens when using dark graphics on catwalk. The reflection is very noticeable.

A side effect of less opportunity for new network presenters to have presented standard news channel hours is that small niggles like how scripts are held at the desk aren't ironed out.

Finally the sports presenter seemed very happy to lean his arm back. Not sure that to me feels appropriate on a network bulletin- Sportsday I can imagine it being OK on but surely in having a slightly more relaxed studio for sports news means a little more care is needed on network bulletins.
BK
bkman1990
The NC had the filler countdown & Martine Croxall having sound issues at the very start of the 11pm TOTH.
RN
Rolling News
They seem to be showing the filler countdown a lot in place of the numbered countdown. Casual viewers must think the channels always broken down or something.
Ittr and SuperSajuuk gave kudos
SS
SuperSajuuk
Rolling News posted:
They seem to be showing the filler countdown a lot in place of the numbered countdown. Casual viewers must think the channels always broken down or something.

I think the countdown is only used if they know they will be live as soon as it completes. This is more and more the case due to other sporting events knocking the schedule a little bit, alongside the insane number of advertisements for other BBC programming on the news channel making it impossible to use the countdown effectively. I really wish they’d go back to showing less ads and more countdown though.

Which reminds me... anyone notice the current countdown has a problematic sequence with one scene in the wrong aspect ratio? It’s the one with a drone camera showing the whole of that satellite dish in China iirc.
SP
Steve in Pudsey
London Lite posted:
AlexS posted:
SuperSajuuk posted:
It's possible, but even with the reduced shift, they could still very easily use the balcony studio much more often for weather broadcasts, or indeed have multiple weather broadcasters throughout the day, since the weather bulletins are basically timed like this:
* 8.30am - 12pm: Simon King from Salford (random presenter from GS studio if Simon not available)
* 12.30pm - 6.30pm: Presenter through News at One, Afternoon Live, News at Five, News at Six (with 1.30 - 2.30pm, 4.30pm and 5.30 - 6.30pm being live broadcasts, the rest all pre-recorded)
* 7pm - 11pm: Another presenter, most of which is pre-recorded segments (but with a chance of 7pm and 9pm being live)
* 12am - 8.30am: Overnight presenter, with only the 12am TOTH being live, the rest is pre-recorded / Breakfast simulcasts

If breaks are the issue, then the 6 hour broadcast shift of weather could be split up by two presenters, one for the named bulletins at 1pm, 5pm and 6pm, and another for Afternoon Live/NC broadcasts. I believe the same shift schedule happens for weekends, though the morning is far less and there are many more pre-recorded bulletins used.

The weather presenters also appear on radio and sometimes world during their shifts and may provide guidance to the autocue readers in the regions who pretend to know about meteorology (the few regions with properly qualified forecasters have less interaction with London from what I've read in the past.


If I recall, there's a daily conference between the nations and regions on-duty presenter and BH.

It used to be with the duty forecaster at Bracknell, presumably somebody from MeteoGroup is in on the call too now?
DE
deejay
AlexS posted:
SuperSajuuk posted:
m_in_m posted:
I wonder if they've reduced a shift somewhere and by using pre-recorded forecast they can make it work to allow the duty forecaster a break?

It's possible, but even with the reduced shift, they could still very easily use the balcony studio much more often for weather broadcasts, or indeed have multiple weather broadcasters throughout the day, since the weather bulletins are basically timed like this:
* 8.30am - 12pm: Simon King from Salford (random presenter from GS studio if Simon not available)
* 12.30pm - 6.30pm: Presenter through News at One, Afternoon Live, News at Five, News at Six (with 1.30 - 2.30pm, 4.30pm and 5.30 - 6.30pm being live broadcasts, the rest all pre-recorded)
* 7pm - 11pm: Another presenter, most of which is pre-recorded segments (but with a chance of 7pm and 9pm being live)
* 12am - 8.30am: Overnight presenter, with only the 12am TOTH being live, the rest is pre-recorded / Breakfast simulcasts

If breaks are the issue, then the 6 hour broadcast shift of weather could be split up by two presenters, one for the named bulletins at 1pm, 5pm and 6pm, and another for Afternoon Live/NC broadcasts. I believe the same shift schedule happens for weekends, though the morning is far less and there are many more pre-recorded bulletins used.

The weather presenters also appear on radio and sometimes world during their shifts and may provide guidance to the autocue readers in the regions who pretend to know about meteorology (the few regions with properly qualified forecasters have less interaction with London from what I've read in the past.


The regional weather presenters are not ‘Autocue readers’ - how disparaging. They might not, in most, cases be full broadcast meteorologists, but do have training in handling the data they get, creating accurate graphics and delivering them to the viewers. The bulletins are not scripted per sé, and there’s no Autocue to read, as they all see reverse vision in the Autocue hood so they can see where they’re pointing to.

I’ve always found most of them highly professional colleagues who rise to the challenge when their time is extended or curtailed to fit the opt times. And in countless surveys, the regional weather forecast is very highly valued by viewers indeed.
NG
noggin Founding member
AlexS posted:

The weather presenters also appear on radio and sometimes world during their shifts and may provide guidance to the autocue readers in the regions who pretend to know about meteorology (the few regions with properly qualified forecasters have less interaction with London from what I've read in the past.


'Autocue readers'? None of the BBC weather presenters - national or regional - read a pre-scripted forecast from prompt. Whilst many of them are not full meteorologists, all of them have had meteorological training, along with training in how to present a forecast. In regions with CSO or projector presentation the prompt screen is likely to be switched to either the CSO composite (so the presenter can see what they are pointing at) or the clean output (so they can see what's in the projector - as often you can't see that with your own eyes from the position you are presenting from) Similarly those using LCD or Plasma screens may also use this technique as their on camera pointing may not be quite what they'd think.
NE
neonemesis
Rolling News posted:
They seem to be showing the filler countdown a lot in place of the numbered countdown. Casual viewers must think the channels always broken down or something.


Casual viewers won't notice a thing.
DA
davidhorman
neonemesis posted:

Casual viewers won't notice a thing.


I think that's our motto, isn't it? What's that in Latin?
MA
Matrix
Nemo animadvertit
davidhorman posted:
neonemesis posted:

Casual viewers won't notice a thing.


I think that's our motto, isn't it? What's that in Latin?


Nemo animadvertit

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