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m_in_m
rob posted:
I thought Carole Walker left BBC? I saw her as a guest on CNNI a few times recently.


She's a freelancer.

She appears at BBC Look East occasionally now. Carole has done a political package (possibly around Brexit) and presented some late bulletins including the 8pm Summary.
IT
itsrobert Founding member
I’m not usually one to comment on a newsreaders dress, but has Victoria got trainers on there?

I you're right, Andrew. I guess she forgot she was on TV rather than radio. Surprised the production team let her on national TV news with trainers on, though. I think that's one of the few things I would still get a telling off for in my job - clothing is fairly relaxed (within reason) but trainers are a definite no-no.
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noggin Founding member
I’m not usually one to comment on a newsreaders dress, but has Victoria got trainers on there?


Victoria isn't a newsreader - she's a presenter of an interview-based show.. I think she was dressed appropriately for an OB of the type she was presenting. This is 2018 not 1958... Jeans and trainers are practical, and if anything help remove a barrier between Victoria and the people she's talking to, and make her feel 'less different'.

Amazed it's even a 'thing'
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itsrobert Founding member
Still, I wouldn't turn up to work in trainers no matter what the occasion. Maybe I'm old fashioned?
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noggin Founding member
Still, I wouldn't turn up to work in trainers no matter what the occasion. Maybe I'm old fashioned?


I wear them to work most days, as do most of my colleagues. You'll see a lot of them in the creative industries...
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peterrocket Founding member
Still, I wouldn't turn up to work in trainers no matter what the occasion. Maybe I'm old fashioned?


Not the first time questions have been raised over her outfit choice though... trainers may suit that, but a big star jumper, bomber jacket and jeans didn’t go down well the day after the Manchester bombing.

Started with



Then the jacket zipped up



Then completely different more sombre jacket later that hour.
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itsrobert Founding member
Still, I wouldn't turn up to work in trainers no matter what the occasion. Maybe I'm old fashioned?


I wear them to work most days, as do most of my colleagues.

That must be your industry, it's definitely not like that in mine. Whether I'm just in the office or giving a lecture/delivering a training workshop, I would never ever wear trainers. It would definitely be frowned upon and I would be uncomfortable knowing that I could be called to an impromptu meeting and be inappropriately dressed. Anyway, this has strayed away from TV presentation!
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Andrew Founding member
I’m still surprised to see a BBC News presenter in such obvious white trainers. I hope it wasn’t a way to break down barriers as that sounds a bit Alan Partridge to me.
MA
Markymark
Still, I wouldn't turn up to work in trainers no matter what the occasion. Maybe I'm old fashioned?


No, it's horses for courses, that's all. There are plenty of places and industries that have a dress code, (and that dress code can vary considerably depending upon the industry). I used to work for a giant Japanese electronic manufacturer. I was technical staff, and despite being customer facing, allowed to wear whatever I liked to work (with the exception of shorts or pyjamas Smile ) but sales colleagues had to be 'suited and booted'. That said I would dress up if meeting clients from some countries and cultures, I never (still don't) dressed up for any of my peers from the UK broadcasting industry, but would if meeting MDs etc. Don't worry though, I only wear trainers for running ! Cool
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bluecortina
Still, I wouldn't turn up to work in trainers no matter what the occasion. Maybe I'm old fashioned?


I always turned up in a shirt and tie, it was my choice to do so. Heavy duty safety shoes were also provided by the company - if you didn't wear them you wouldn't have a leg to stand on in the event of a claim. I am old fashioned.

Edited to add. The engineering young men I worked with often used to complain that the young girls around the building never noticed them and they never seemed to get any sort of inviting 'vibe' so as to speak. I told them to wear a white shirt and tie and they would suddenly find they would be noticed because they would stand out from the crowd. If you come to work looking like you've just walked out of a Weatherspoons Pub then you're not really going to stand out from the crowd are you?
Last edited by bluecortina on 10 April 2018 9:34am
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Markymark


Edited to add. The engineering young men I worked with often used to complain that the young girls around the building never noticed them and they never seemed to get any sort of inviting 'vibe' so as to speak. I told them to wear a white shirt and tie and they would suddenly find they would be noticed because they would stand out from the crowd.


Sound advice ! I wish I’d worked with you 30 years ago !
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Aaron_2015
Still, I wouldn't turn up to work in trainers no matter what the occasion. Maybe I'm old fashioned?


Not the first time questions have been raised over her outfit choice though... trainers may suit that, but a big star jumper, bomber jacket and jeans didn’t go down well the day after the Manchester bombing.

Started with

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s0LcOP8RFhw

Then the jacket zipped up

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G1B4yrYB1W8

Then completely different more sombre jacket later that hour.


Unrelated to the trainers discussion but looking back at it, Victoria Derbyshire’s presenting was absolutely terrible the day after the Manchester bombing. From those two clips, one might assume it was her first time broadcasting on location. A news presenter should be able to learn a headline sequence with basic facts at the very least. Derbyshire checks her notes (or iPad initially) after just a few seconds, stutters and leaves long pauses between sentences.

I seem to remember she was just as bad at the scene of the Grenfell Tower Fire, making some seriously poor judgements then as well.

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