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noggin Founding member
I find it ironic one part of the industry is hard at work with UHD and HDR, and another part is simply impairing the quality with nonsense like this.


Even worse when it's Click who are on the one hand praising UHD while on the other hand degrading their picture with film effects and soft focus.


I think Click shoot 25p rather than adding a 'film effect' in post. Nothing wrong with shooting 25p if you know what you are doing. They may occasionally film effect interlaced archive dropped in to HD 25p edits, but thats a judgement call. Would the switch between 50i and 25p in a sequence be more distracting than a good quality 25p conversion?

The Click editors do a pretty good job of adding decent production values to a news-budget half-hour which probably has a very limited budget. I don't think I would slate them for their efforts.

Out of focus shots are one thing, shallow depth of field (often a result of using a large sensor camera like the Canon C300) causing focus to be thrown on the background is something else. Stuff out of focus is an error, stuff that is selectively focused in a shallow DoF frame is a craft decision. Again not something I'd slate them for. After all, shallow depth of field is a story telling device, just like framing and grading.
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james-2001
Film effect, 25p, you know what I meant regardless. I'm just not a fan of that look in general, doubly so on shows like that. There's far too much overuse of it these days when there's just no need for it. I think it damages the look of many more shows than it enchances. Particuarly I despise the current fad for having a film look on a show's inserts/packages/backstage clips, which seems to have as good as become the standard way of doing things over the last decade or so (probably spurred by Top Gear).
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MA
Markymark
After all, shallow depth of field is a story telling device, just like framing and grading.


It is, and in the appropriate genres (drama, fiction, LE etc) it's fine, (I suppose), but in serious 'actuality' programming, no, not acceptable or appropriate in my opinion.
WI
Willow7
Is this the right place for a weather blooper? At about 10.30 today, just at the end of the weather and before The Papers, Louise Lear stepped to the side of the screen and said, 'Oh you wally. I wondered what was wrong'. I hope someone else saw this too, or else I dreamed it, which would be disturbing... (and I haven't heard the word 'wally' since the 90s!)
DA
davidhorman
Quote:
I hope someone else saw this too, or else I dreamed it, which would be disturbing...


Nope, it happened - I just saw it on a live pause delay and came here to see if anyone else had seen it. Until 00:30 you should be able to rewind and watch it here:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/10318089

And ooh, looks like the live channel streams are 720p50 now. We truly are living in the future.
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WI
Willow7
Thank you - that's a relief. I can carry on eating cheese at bedtime! 😀
VM
VMPhil
Just watched it - did she not realise it was live and thought it was a rehearsal or something?
CR
Critique
Was it live though? The introduction at the beginning of the forecast is just a generic 'Good evening' rather than thanking the NC presenter or anything, so maybe this is just the wrong take of the forecast sent through to be aired?
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dvboy
Looks like it was a prerecord and they played out the wrong one.



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bilky asko
Going into massive speculation mode (and comparing with the forecast just played out with Stav Danaos), I reckon the wrong sort of picture was on the backdrop of the last slide (grey clouds, as opposed to an image of fields of rape).
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Ant
Going into massive speculation mode (and comparing with the forecast just played out with Stav Danaos), I reckon the wrong sort of picture was on the backdrop of the last slide (grey clouds, as opposed to an image of fields of rape).

I think she's talking about the weather on Wednesday but the image shows Thursday?
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bilky asko
Ant posted:
Going into massive speculation mode (and comparing with the forecast just played out with Stav Danaos), I reckon the wrong sort of picture was on the backdrop of the last slide (grey clouds, as opposed to an image of fields of rape).

I think she's talking about the weather on Wednesday but the image shows Thursday?


That video in the tweet takes out the context. See this longer video below:

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