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LL
London Lite Founding member
I'm surprised that BBC News Channel hasn't really attempted much talk-and-analysis programming in the style of the French news channels (see below). It's relatively inexpensive to produce, it falls within a public service remit, and judging from the seeming popularity of late-night newspaper reviews, there's a demand for it in the UK.


French television loves anything with a panel, from entertainment formats to rolling news, it's common for studios to have a round table set-up.

i>TELE's version of Sunrise, Team Toussaint has an on-air team of six, the lead presenter, bulletin reader and four experts. And that's before you add the weather presenter, correspondents and guests.

CI
cityprod
The 7pm hour sounds like the former "UK Today" programme that used to air in the early years of News 24.

I've long thought Newsnight should be repeated on the News Channel but I would air it after midnight.


Actually the 7pm hour is the return of the old "News 24 Tonight" programme from 2005.
BR
Brekkie
Rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic?


Oi, that was my line on the last page Cool

You have to wonder, at what point do the Beeb decide the News Channel is not really managing to fulfil its objective, and do the honourable thing and chuck in the towel ?

I suppose a good job it long ago ditched the '24' in its name. Though everyone still calls it that

It does seem like another example, whether through choice or circumstances, of a channel being run down in preparation for closure.

The Newsnight repeating justification is just insulting too - it's not like BBC News trends young so just admit it's filling time, which is fine although I'm not a fan of things being repeated immediately after they finished. It would be better really for them to just simulcast it, follow it with Sportsday perhaps and then find something else at 11.30pm, axing The Papers in the process which is catered for elsewhere. Also considering the papers on the whole don't show any support for the BBC I don't see why the BBC should bother promoting them.
IT
itsrobert Founding member
The 7pm hour sounds like the former "UK Today" programme that used to air in the early years of News 24.

I've long thought Newsnight should be repeated on the News Channel but I would air it after midnight.


Actually the 7pm hour is the return of the old "News 24 Tonight" programme from 2005.

Which was essentially based on UK Today.
CI
cityprod
The 7pm hour sounds like the former "UK Today" programme that used to air in the early years of News 24.

I've long thought Newsnight should be repeated on the News Channel but I would air it after midnight.


Actually the 7pm hour is the return of the old "News 24 Tonight" programme from 2005.

Which was essentially based on UK Today.


Not really. News 24 Tonight was an amalgam of a standard news bulletin and a selection of reports from the regions, which weren't really selected on news value, but more on a sort of "what's most interesting" scale. UK Today tried to pick out the biggest stories in the regions, and report those in order. Different programmes, different agendas.
MS
msim
The BBC really do justify this [cost saving] oddly. Repeating Newsnight immediately after it finishes on BBC Two in a bid to attract "younger" audiences. Yet part of the justification for axing BBC Three TV is that the "young" don't watch live TV.

I dare say the next things to simulcast will be Marr and Sunday Politics.
IT
itsrobert Founding member

Actually the 7pm hour is the return of the old "News 24 Tonight" programme from 2005.

Which was essentially based on UK Today.


Not really. News 24 Tonight was an amalgam of a standard news bulletin and a selection of reports from the regions, which weren't really selected on news value, but more on a sort of "what's most interesting" scale. UK Today tried to pick out the biggest stories in the regions, and report those in order. Different programmes, different agendas.

Yes, although the idea of re-broadcasting reports from the regions on the national 24 hour news channel - regardless of what they were mixed with - started with UK Today.
Nicky and bilky asko gave kudos
SC
scottishtv Founding member
Of course, Newsnight currently airs in Scotland on BBC Two Scotland at 23:00 until 23:50, so up here we will have the same programme airing at the same time on two channels, but one showing is time-shifted by 15 mins. Confused
IL
i-lied
Why do the BBC think cuts to BBC News will benefit anyone? It's making me want to watch it less! As someone else said, it's likely that when the next cuts come round in April that the channel will have been so cut down already that they will fold it into something else or cut it completely. It's a shame in a way.
CI
cityprod
Which was essentially based on UK Today.


Not really. News 24 Tonight was an amalgam of a standard news bulletin and a selection of reports from the regions, which weren't really selected on news value, but more on a sort of "what's most interesting" scale. UK Today tried to pick out the biggest stories in the regions, and report those in order. Different programmes, different agendas.

Yes, although the idea of re-broadcasting reports from the regions on the national 24 hourod, you don news channel - regardless of what they were mixed with - started with UK Today.


God, you don't want to let this one go. You want to somehow take this back to UK Today, which was an idea that was created to fill a spot on Satellite BBC1, rather than a programme that was specifically created for BBC News 24, and was more related to the ITV News Network programme that was on the ITV News Channel during 2004 and 2005, than the UK Today programme that originated on BBC1 Satellite in 1998.

In othier words, you're following the wrong trail.
:-(
A former member
Who thinks this is plan trick to move Newsnight to News 24 on a full basic, and freeing up BBC 2 for repeats of BBC three series?
LL
London Lite Founding member
Why do the BBC think cuts to BBC News will benefit anyone? It's making me want to watch it less! As someone else said, it's likely that when the next cuts come round in April that the channel will have been so cut down already that they will fold it into something else or cut it completely. It's a shame in a way.


This is what happens when the licence fee has been frozen for six years, while in real terms, the BBC has lost a massive amount of money. Alas the closure of BBC Three and the reduction of rolling news bulletins on the NC.

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