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itsrobert Founding member
Moz posted:
I think Newsbeat is hugely patronising. It uses words like 'stuff' which are only added to make it sound cool. The BBC should be trying to improve the diction of our youth, not embracing Vikki Pollard vocabulary.

I quite agree. Youngsters are hugely influenced by what they see on TV. More often than not, behaviours seen on TV are repeated and then spread by peer influence. The BBC should be setting an example of good grammar and diction - it's what they always used to do. I accept that they can't do that in programmes like EastEnders because it would undermine the credibility of the programme (in that it needs to be as real as possible). However, the news is a completely different matter.

Some here are arguing that BBC ONE should introduce a "trendy" summary to appeal to youngsters because the channel has a duty to cater for all people, including youngsters. However, the converse to that is the alienation of the vast majority of BBC ONE's audience. I think a balance needs to be reached between serious news and light stories but the scripts should not be watered down in any circumstances.
JO
Jonathan
^ Exactly. The BBC are already trying too hard to cater for young people, on BBC News 24 programmes such as ''Teen 24'' are already creeping into their schedules, where Myleen Class goes out and about meeting self-harmers and children who think they are fat. We just don't need this on the BBC One.

Al Jazeera's news summaries are fantastic and professional; Kaplinsky and indeed George Alaghiah would simply make a summary a little...empty. Radio 1's Newsbeat is heavily patronising already, but that's because it is aimed at a 16-35 audience anyway, at least. You can't apply that to a mainstream channel which is supposed to reflect an entire demograph, yet recent measures at the BBC would suggest otherwise (think Moira).
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peppery
Watched the trial of this and thought it went well. It's only 90 secs., and it could cut out a trailer for programmes. Natasha right for it speaks well and has a touch of irony. Also on normal bulletins what is wrong in speaking to us instead of at us (Ch4 News tries to dramatise items) I do realise that some think that makes it serious, the content does that. The News has always had fluffy bits more so in the past than to-day .Aggresive interviewers don't get any more answers and at times they get fewer answers just using up time by repitition. Posters mention Newsnight, Paxman is really serious, worries a lot about having to wear a tie if you read his blog and he strikes me as being bored, if the presenter is bored why should viewers think it interesting, Adrian Chiles has the same tendency. So give the 90 secs a try it won't kill us and some may like it no matter who does the presenting, personally I' d choose Natasha but knowing the beeb it will be someone who is hyperactive.
CH
chris
Look, I don't like Natasha that much but I think everybody is going a bit over the top with her presenting style; give it a rest!

I welcome the bullitin, but I think it should be more like the daytime updates rather than what they had in the Midlands. I really didn't like what I saw (on a clip on youtube) when there was the Maddy McCann story and Natasha said, chattily (is that a word!), "Still no news from Portugal, I'm afraid."
BR
Brekkie
peppery posted:
Watched the trial of this and thought it went well. It's only 90 secs., and it could cut out a trailer for programmes. Natasha right for it speaks well and has a touch of irony. Also on normal bulletins what is wrong in speaking to us instead of at us (Ch4 News tries to dramatise items) I do realise that some think that makes it serious, the content does that. The News has always had fluffy bits more so in the past than to-day .Aggresive interviewers don't get any more answers and at times they get fewer answers just using up time by repitition. Posters mention Newsnight, Paxman is really serious, worries a lot about having to wear a tie if you read his blog and he strikes me as being bored, if the presenter is bored why should viewers think it interesting, Adrian Chiles has the same tendency. So give the 90 secs a try it won't kill us and some may like it no matter who does the presenting, personally I' d choose Natasha but knowing the beeb it will be someone who is hyperactive.



Welcome to the forums Natasha.
JO
Jonathan
Haha I love the way members here say those hearty introductions when a new member supports a highly unpopular presenter. I remember having something similar said to me when I used to like the odious Stephen Cole. LoL.
SA
salfordjohn
Jonathan posted:
Haha I love the way members here say those hearty introductions when a new member supports a highly unpopular presenter. I remember having something similar said to me when I used to like the odious Stephen Cole. LoL.


yeah.. what happened to him. Click OnLine with Stephen Cole, becane Click with Spencer Whatshisname... where did Stephen go! I liked him too. liked his laid back style.
JO
Jonathan
.... he's now ''the face'' of Al Jazeera International.
JO
Joshua
Stephen Cole now presents on Al Jazeera English.
IT
itsrobert Founding member
salfordjohn posted:
Jonathan posted:
Haha I love the way members here say those hearty introductions when a new member supports a highly unpopular presenter. I remember having something similar said to me when I used to like the odious Stephen Cole. LoL.


yeah.. what happened to him. Click OnLine with Stephen Cole, becane Click with Spencer Whatshisname... where did Stephen go! I liked him too. liked his laid back style.


He was also a regular weekday news presenter on BBC World. I really liked him. Some criticised his laid back style, but I found it quite a refreshing change from the other presenters' styles.
JO
Jonathan
He received a lot of attention during the infamous BBC Strike when he crossed the picket lines and filled in for the Six or Ten O Clock news. The thing is, I think he was Ok to do that since he worked for BBC World at the time. Subsequently, he was offered presenting roles on News 24 now and again, and then defected to Al Jaz.
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JamesWorldNews
I quite liked Stephen Cole's presentation style too! Tons of hairspray, admittedly, but his work to camera was good (in news only - terrible on Click!).

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