The Newsroom

BBC News 8pm 90 seconds slot

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LW
little white dot
imnogoth posted:
News isn't editorial decisions, special reports or glamorous newsreaders - it just means what's happened/ happening around the world.

The News on television, radio, print and [to a lesser extent] internet has chosen to report it generally in a detailed, sophisticated style. That doesn't mean it has to be broadcast that way.

The concept of 'news' isn't 'man-made' - events happening is just part of the way the world works. How we interpret, report and take in the news has all been decided by humans.

So why does all news broadcasting, as someone like itsrobert is suggesting, be 'presented' in this same manner? People who don't watch the news may still want to, just not in the structure used.

News broadcast this way has been around for hundreds of years (i.e. via newspapers), but there is no reason for it to stay soley that way.


And if everyone who owns and watches a TV has to pay the TV lisence, yes I believe the BBC has a responsiblity to fulfill the needs and wants of as many of its viewers as it wants. There is no reason news can't be broadcast in this 'informal' way just as much as it can be broadcast in the 'proper' way...


Well said! Smile
NE
newsmonkey
Brekkie posted:

I'm not sure it's fair to say that BBC News are haemorrhaging - the Ten o'clock News seems to be going from strength to strength, while in the last few years News 24 has over taken Sky as the number one news channel.


I'm away from my desk so cant get my hands on the numbers, but off the top of my head year-on-year television news is losing an average of 300,000 viewers across its output and that gap isnt being plugged by a slight increase in usage of digital services. Maybe not a haemorrhage (I just love that word), but it's still substantial and needs addressing.
DO
dosxuk
itsrobert posted:
The fact remains that there are some people in this country who do not watch the news because they are not interested in it and nothing the BBC does is going to change that.


And these people will remain uniterested in it. However 1.7m more people are consuming BBC News since the introduction of this bulletin, who otherwise weren't watching or were uninterested.

The BBC has a remit to ensure as many people as possible consume it's output. Adding this bulletin for effectively little money has turned out to be a good idea. I especially applaud the local segment. Where other broadcasters are desperately trying to reduce their regional output, the BBC are finding them more work.
IT
itsrobert Founding member
I suppose when you look at it that way it does make sense. As you said, 1.7 million more people are watching BBC News than prior to its creation, which has to be a good thing. I just wish they'd compensate by beefing up the One and Six to the standard of the Ten and Newsnight. Years ago, if I caught one bulletin of BBC News a day then I was happy and felt fully informed. These days, even if I watch the One or Six I still feel the need to watch the Ten in order to be satisfied. The One and Six feature far too many celebrity and human interest stories and not enough political news for my liking.
AN
All New Johnnyboy
itsrobert posted:
I suppose when you look at it that way it does make sense. As you said, 1.7 million more people are watching BBC News than prior to its creation, which has to be a good thing. I just wish they'd compensate by beefing up the One and Six to the standard of the Ten and Newsnight. Years ago, if I caught one bulletin of BBC News a day then I was happy and felt fully informed. These days, even if I watch the One or Six I still feel the need to watch the Ten in order to be satisfied. The One and Six feature far too many celebrity and human interest stories and not enough political news for my liking.


Agreed. I remember watching the One and Six in the 80s and 90s and they were proper broadcasts.

They are now a shadow of their former selves.
JO
Joe
If people are now watching the 8pm bulletin and weren't watching before, surely they therefore want this news service - and therefore these arguments about choice are irrelevent. People still have the choice - and are using it to tune into BBC 1 at 8pm to see a short news bulletin. Perhaps they don't choose to, as it were, but they aren't choosing not to, by changing channel, and are therefore learning about world issues and other such current affairs. Thus, it can surely only be deemed a success, without removing 'choice'.
MD
mdtauk
Jugalug posted:
If people are now watching the 8pm bulletin and weren't watching before, surely they therefore want this news service - and therefore these arguments about choice are irrelevent. People still have the choice - and are using it to tune into BBC 1 at 8pm to see a short news bulletin. Perhaps they don't choose to, as it were, but they aren't choosing not to, by changing channel, and are therefore learning about world issues and other such current affairs. Thus, it can surely only be deemed a success, without removing 'choice'.


They may not be watching for the bulletin, but rather are sitting through it to watch the upcoming programme. Thus getting the news passively.

I am not saying its a bad thing...
JO
Joe
Exactly.
NH
Nick Harvey Founding member
I think the 90 second bulletin at about 20:00 is excellent.

You watch EastEnders, then you know you've got a full 90 seconds to set up your DVD recorders for the rest of the evening's material before Waterloo Road starts.

Well done the BBC, for a guaranteed minute and a half when you're absolutely and definitely certain that there's no need whatsoever to watch.
IT
itsrobert Founding member
Nick Harvey posted:
I think the 90 second bulletin at about 20:00 is excellent.

You watch EastEnders, then you know you've got a full 90 seconds to set up your DVD recorders for the rest of the evening's material before Waterloo Road starts.

Well done the BBC, for a guaranteed minute and a half when you're absolutely and definitely certain that there's no need whatsoever to watch.


Lol, maybe we should have 'The Official What Do You Do During The BBC Nugget News? Thread'

Or maybe not.
AN
all new Phil
noggin posted:
BBC News is deemed a corner stone of the BBC - and one of the most valued parts. If it becomes less valued because it is less relevant to a section of its audience - that is dangerous for the BBC, and it is part of the Beeb's public service remit to inform its audience...

Oh I see... so why then are the BBC cutting back so much in their news production, and preventing News 24 from properly covering breaking and rolling news during the BBC One simulcasts? It can hardly be valued, if they are severely limiting what is one of the channel's core purposes.

26 days later

GR
gregmc
Celina Hinchcliffe doing the 90 Second update tonight. Another new face to the slot.

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