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SE
Seb
World News America on tonight with Phillipa Thomas, yet the screen still said Matt Frei, and Phillipa started by saing "Welcome, Matt is on holiday".

Don't really like this approach, would be better if they had changed the graphic and used the usual intro.
EY
the eye
alarsne53 posted:
World News America on tonight with Phillipa Thomas, yet the screen still said Matt Frei, and Phillipa started by saing "Welcome, Matt is on holiday".

Don't really like this approach, would be better if they had changed the graphic and used the usual intro.


They've done this a few times. I don't like it either, just cos its news aimed at Americans I don't think they have to act like them too.
MO
Moz
alarsne53 posted:
World News America on tonight with Phillipa Thomas, yet the screen still said Matt Frei, and Phillipa started by saing "Welcome, Matt is on holiday".

Don't really like this approach, would be better if they had changed the graphic and used the usual intro.

American programmes always do this, they even have it on the voice over when the regular host isn't there!
JR
jrothwell97
Moz posted:
alarsne53 posted:
World News America on tonight with Phillipa Thomas, yet the screen still said Matt Frei, and Phillipa started by saing "Welcome, Matt is on holiday".

Don't really like this approach, would be better if they had changed the graphic and used the usual intro.

American programmes always do this, they even have it on the voice over when the regular host isn't there!


The most irritating part is that some say it in a very colloquial fashion, often only using the presenters' first names (eg 'Jeff is off tonight, Gene is sitting in.')

And that's American news for you.
SE
Seb
I know the Americans do it, but there is no need for the BBC to follow this convention!
PE
Pete Founding member
oh why not. if they think it'll help their show fit in better with American audiences than so be it. Perhaps American shows on Channel 4 should only use American style ad breaks? The BBC are trying to fit in nicely with their audience, and if they think this will help then let them do it. Why should the fact it seems daft to a UK audience matter? The show isn't for a UK audience.
BR
Brekkie
Isn't the appeal of it though to American audiences that it's not like the other US bulletins?


It's a stupid practice and one which the BBC doesn't need to follow.
SE
Seb
I don't think it would make any difference to the Americans if they did do it differently, I'm sure most wouldn't even notice it was any different to other domestic news programmes.

And in any case, if the show isn't for a UK audience, why bother to show it at all on News 24, if this really was the case, they would have stuck surely with World Business Report which used to occupy the slot WNA is now in.
IT
itsrobert Founding member
Apart from anything else, the programme is made by, and goes out on, BBC World. That reaches everyone from Brazil to New Zealand. It may be partly funded by BBC America and be transmitted on BBC America, but it does also serve a huge non-American audience. They really ought to stick to British values - it is a British programme, after all. It's our standard of broadcasting that has made BBC World and the World Service so popular around the globe. They'd be daft to Americanise it - their news programmes are hardly considered to be the best in the world.
SN
SN2005
itsrobert posted:
Apart from anything else, the programme is made by, and goes out on, BBC World. That reaches everyone from Brazil to New Zealand. It may be partly funded by BBC America and be transmitted on BBC America, but it does also serve a huge non-American audience. They really ought to stick to British values - it is a British programme, after all. It's our standard of broadcasting that has made BBC World and the World Service so popular around the globe. They'd be daft to Americanise it - their news programmes are hardly considered to be the best in the world.


But it's called 'World News America' - it's not made for the benefit of good folk of Caracas or Riyadh but for the infamously insular Americans, and yes whilst they might be looking for something a little bit different - I have nothing against a little tailoring to an audience which they have obviously invested so heavily in other areas to capture.
CH
Chie
Interesting to see the time delay on the 'Live' footage of the plane landing at Miami this evening. It was obviously pre-recorded, because they wouldn't show a live plane crash (this has been mentioned on Newswatch before). I have no problem with that, but the presenters were pretending they didn't know what was going to happen. "Is it going to be a happy landing?" they were saying. Of course it was - you already knew that because it was pre-recorded and cleared for transmission by the Head of News Rolling Eyes The give away was a sudden cut to the actual live real time feed upon landing. One moment there were no emergency vehicles or personnel surrounding the plane, the next moment there were dozens.
IT
itsrobert Founding member
SN2005 posted:
itsrobert posted:
Apart from anything else, the programme is made by, and goes out on, BBC World. That reaches everyone from Brazil to New Zealand. It may be partly funded by BBC America and be transmitted on BBC America, but it does also serve a huge non-American audience. They really ought to stick to British values - it is a British programme, after all. It's our standard of broadcasting that has made BBC World and the World Service so popular around the globe. They'd be daft to Americanise it - their news programmes are hardly considered to be the best in the world.


But it's called 'World News America' - it's not made for the benefit of good folk of Caracas or Riyadh but for the infamously insular Americans, and yes whilst they might be looking for something a little bit different - I have nothing against a little tailoring to an audience which they have obviously invested so heavily in other areas to capture.


Well, the World News Today programmes that go out on BBC World throughout the day all have a different target region. The 0500 GMT TWT is aimed at Europe, the 1200 WNT is aimed at America, the 1600 is aimed at Asia and the 1900 at Europe again. Despite being aimed at different regions, all the programmes go out on BBC World and are visible by anyone in any region. Their agendas are skewed slightly towards the target region. What they don't do, however, is completely change the format of the programme to something which is not typical of BBC or British values. I don't see why World News America has to be any different. Would it not be sufficient to tailor the content towards America (and of course, keeping in mind the millions of international viewers) but keep the format of the programme strictly BBC?

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