Someone played out the wrong announcement from BBC One into N24 last night. "...join BBC News 24 with World Business Report" Cue the new N24 titles (exactly the same by the way, no variation there either) and into the titles of...."Sport Today". Oops.
And I thought Sport Today was only a World programme?
It's been shown (before the new look) quite a bit overnight. I was also under the impression it was a World programme.
Someone played out the wrong announcement from BBC One into N24 last night. "...join BBC News 24 with World Business Report" Cue the new N24 titles (exactly the same by the way, no variation there either) and into the titles of...."Sport Today". Oops.
And I thought Sport Today was only a World programme?
It's been shown (before the new look) quite a bit overnight. I was also under the impression it was a World programme.
It is
The 2215 version is usually repeated on World at 0345. When there is a major sporting even, which would make this edition out of date, the programme is done live at 0345. As there is only one stream out of News24 at the time, this means the programme also has to go out on News24. Many items have to be changes as rights issues are very different between World and News24
News 24 have been utterly f-cked over by Sky in the last hour.
From 6pm, Sky were running on the 'paedo not in prison' story, with live reports for the first 15 minutes of the hour. News 24 were stuck with the Six o'clock News and could do nothing.
The story about a possible secret email system at No10 was even more embarrassing. Sky broke the story at about 6.25 with Jon Craig in Westminster. Seems as though he got wind of the ITV News story that was about to run at 6.30 and scooped them on it. News 24 came back at 6.30 with headlines for a few minutes, then went to James Lansdale in Westminster only to cut him off two minutes later for the much more important Entertainment 24, which we were informed "had been delayed because of all this breaking news". As if it was some sort of inconvenience that a potentially huge political scandal had just broken when there were Oscars to be discussed.
Meanwhile, Sky were discussing the story with Adam Boulton in Switzerland and Jon Craig in London.
News 24 have been utterly f-cked over by Sky in the last hour.
From 6pm, Sky were running on the 'paedo not in prison' story, with live reports for the first 15 minutes of the hour. News 24 were stuck with the Six o'clock News and could do nothing.
That was the lead story on the Six O'Clock News, so it was covered on News 24 at 18.00.
Going completly off topic, but on bbc.co.uk you've got the outrage of this story on one page - and then a link to the gym for four year olds opening in Swansea!
News 24 have been utterly f-cked over by Sky in the last hour.
From 6pm, Sky were running on the 'paedo not in prison' story, with live reports for the first 15 minutes of the hour. News 24 were stuck with the Six o'clock News and could do nothing.
The story about a possible secret email system at No10 was even more embarrassing. Sky broke the story at about 6.25 with Jon Craig in Westminster. Seems as though he got wind of the ITV News story that was about to run at 6.30 and scooped them on it. News 24 came back at 6.30 with headlines for a few minutes, then went to James Lansdale in Westminster only to cut him off two minutes later for the much more important Entertainment 24, which we were informed "had been delayed because of all this breaking news". As if it was some sort of inconvenience that a potentially huge political scandal had just broken when there were Oscars to be discussed.
Meanwhile, Sky were discussing the story with Adam Boulton in Switzerland and Jon Craig in London.
Very impressive, Beeb,
So you obviously considered sky's coverage of these two items of breaking news so important you decided to flick between the two channels? Sorry, when the public watch 24 hour news they aren't even subconciously thinking "I wonder what the rivals are covering", they are merely absorbing whatever they chose to watch! To be fair the whole idea of breaking news is way too out of proportiong, so what if one broadcaster breaks a story '3 minutes 25 seconds' later than the other, the time difference is so insignificant compared with the subsequent analysis the particular broadcaster provides on that story in the hours, days, weeks, months and years following the 'breaking' of it!.
Get over yourself Cat, maybe News 24 were wrong to jump straight to entertainment, but at the end of the day it won't change my life if i find out the verdict on this internet peado tonight or over breakfast with tomorrow's morning paper...
Life's too short to worry about it, let's continue the talk about presentation!!
I quite like it actually - looks much better than it did (much tidier, neater and nearer to the bottom of the screen now where as before it took up a small chunk of the bottom) - keep up the good work N24!
Life's too short to worry about it, let's continue the talk about presentation!!
Sam
but discussing who broke what first actaully counts as presentation, and thus falls within the remit of this forum.
I'd argue that Look East is correct in what he said. Technically, the timing of breaking news on a news channel is editorial discussion. Presentation is actually idents, graphics, music, presenters etc. However, we tend to be quite flexible here as to what is discussed because it is very difficult to draw exact lines around what can and can't be discussed. Strictly speaking, though, I wouldn't class timing of breaking news as presentation.
Life's too short to worry about it, let's continue the talk about presentation!!
Sam
but discussing who broke what first actaully counts as presentation, and thus falls within the remit of this forum.
I'm affraid you are very very wrong. Breaking news is a matter of punctuality, not visual and auditorial asthetics.
not in the context of this forum I am not. Of course presentation means graphics, titles etc in its literal sense. But i think we can safely say that a lot more than that is discussed on this forum.
The story about a possible secret email system at No10 was even more embarrassing. Sky broke the story at about 6.25 with Jon Craig in Westminster. Seems as though he got wind of the ITV News story that was about to run at 6.30 and scooped them on it. News 24 came back at 6.30 with headlines for a few minutes, then went to James Lansdale in Westminster only to cut him off two minutes later for the much more important Entertainment 24, which we were informed "had been delayed because of all this breaking news". As if it was some sort of inconvenience that a potentially huge political scandal had just broken when there were Oscars to be discussed.
Turns out the story about No 10 was b*ll*cks though, so that's probably why News 24 didn't cover it much. Sky just jumps straight in though doesn't it. Who cares if it's lies. Hmmm, Sky Lies. Better title for the channel, it even nearly rhymes!