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(January 2007)

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itsrobert Founding member
salfordjohn posted:
imnogoth posted:
Do we think Sophie will return to the Beeb after her maternity leave and if so will she keep the one?
Arrow Sian Williams - though I don't know she'll be moving anywhere and would anchoring the one be a step up from Breakfast? Then again Sophie's moved from Breakfast - Six - One so she must have seen it as a promotion?

Out of interest, anyone have ideas for where Sophie Raworth could move to when she returns? Just because I'm wondering if News 24 will totally produce the one now - from stories to production to presenters? It would make sense and be cost effective! (Though I personally like Sophie on the one)


Anna Ford went from SIX to ONE. Was that a promotion for her? Maybe she jumped at the opportunity to work an earlier shift and have the afternoon to herself?? Would Sian see a move from Breakfast to the One as a PROMOtion or a DEMOtion??

Being the ONE's main anchor could just provide anybody with a better work/life balance. These people have lives/families etc. Maybe it ain't about 'how many viewers are watching me' maybe it's about 'which role suits me' and 'which role am i being offered'?? Dermot stayed on Breakfast for 5 years . . . was that a step up for him from being Trevor's number 2 at ITN???


Well said. People seem to see employment solely as a linear hierarchical ladder, which is not the case. Often, people will remain in a position because they are happy with it. Not everyone strives to get to number one. Let's face it, any newsreader working on any of the BBC One bulletins is high profile anyway. I'm sure they all see each other as an equal team anyway, rather than thinking 'oh, he/she is below me'. As salfordjohn said, they may have personal commitments for which working on the One O'Clock News is more suitable. I know one person jumped ship because (among other reasons) the working hours weren't suitable for family life and they could find a more suitable job elsewhere.
HO
House
itsrobert posted:
salfordjohn posted:
imnogoth posted:
Do we think Sophie will return to the Beeb after her maternity leave and if so will she keep the one?
Arrow Sian Williams - though I don't know she'll be moving anywhere and would anchoring the one be a step up from Breakfast? Then again Sophie's moved from Breakfast - Six - One so she must have seen it as a promotion?

Out of interest, anyone have ideas for where Sophie Raworth could move to when she returns? Just because I'm wondering if News 24 will totally produce the one now - from stories to production to presenters? It would make sense and be cost effective! (Though I personally like Sophie on the one)


Anna Ford went from SIX to ONE. Was that a promotion for her? Maybe she jumped at the opportunity to work an earlier shift and have the afternoon to herself?? Would Sian see a move from Breakfast to the One as a PROMOtion or a DEMOtion??

Being the ONE's main anchor could just provide anybody with a better work/life balance. These people have lives/families etc. Maybe it ain't about 'how many viewers are watching me' maybe it's about 'which role suits me' and 'which role am i being offered'?? Dermot stayed on Breakfast for 5 years . . . was that a step up for him from being Trevor's number 2 at ITN???


Well said. People seem to see employment solely as a linear hierarchical ladder, which is not the case. Often, people will remain in a position because they are happy with it. Not everyone strives to get to number one. Let's face it, any newsreader working on any of the BBC One bulletins is high profile anyway. I'm sure they all see each other as an equal team anyway, rather than thinking 'oh, he/she is below me'. As salfordjohn said, they may have personal commitments for which working on the One O'Clock News is more suitable. I know one person jumped ship because (among other reasons) the working hours weren't suitable for family life and they could find a more suitable job elsewhere.
OK OK! I didn't mean it like that! I was simply saying would someone like Sian Williams want to move to the one? It was simply a question, not an opinion.

I was meaning, Sian already has OK hours when you think the one presenters are there early in the morning to write their lines, but don't leave until 2! Someone like Sian already has the afternoon to spend with her baby and kids, so would it be a promotion considering hours aren't so different!

Also, If you ask me Sophie moving to the one was a promotion - surely anchoring the flagship lunchtime show on her own is better than being the second co-presenter on a 30 minute program she has to share!
CI
cityprod
itsrobert posted:
Is there any need for News 24 to be carrying the Queen's 60th anniversary service? I've never understood this: anyone who can watch News 24 also has access to BBC One. Why can't they just keep it on BBC One and continue with the news on News 24?

It's a similar situation every week with PMQs. The Daily Politics gives it in-depth coverage on BBC Two, so why does it have to be shown on News 24 as well? Surely they are just duplicating resources?


With PMQs, if memory serves, there are 2 permanent feeds coming out from Westminster. The main feed has the cuts between the various cameras, whilst the secondary feed is a permanent long shot, facing the speaker's chair and the dispatch boxes, from above the main entry doorway where MPs enter and exit from. BBC Parliament is basically the main feed constantly, whilst the others switch from secondary into main at then beginning then back to secondary to leave the chamber. If you were able to watch BBC2 and News 24 side by side, you'd see the video feeds are basically exactly the same, so not really much duplication going on in terms of expenses. Merely three different galleries or MCRs using the same video feed. Quite cheap really.
TW
Tom W
salfordjohn posted:
Anna Ford went from SIX to ONE. Was that a promotion for her? Maybe she jumped at the opportunity to work an earlier shift and have the afternoon to herself?? Would Sian see a move from Breakfast to the One as a PROMOtion or a DEMOtion??

Being the ONE's main anchor could just provide anybody with a better work/life balance. These people have lives/families etc. Maybe it ain't about 'how many viewers are watching me' maybe it's about 'which role suits me' and 'which role am i being offered'?? Dermot stayed on Breakfast for 5 years . . . was that a step up for him from being Trevor's number 2 at ITN???


Maybe it has something to do with the money they're being offered?!
JO
Joe
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IT
itsrobert Founding member
imnogoth posted:
itsrobert posted:
salfordjohn posted:
imnogoth posted:
Do we think Sophie will return to the Beeb after her maternity leave and if so will she keep the one?
Arrow Sian Williams - though I don't know she'll be moving anywhere and would anchoring the one be a step up from Breakfast? Then again Sophie's moved from Breakfast - Six - One so she must have seen it as a promotion?

Out of interest, anyone have ideas for where Sophie Raworth could move to when she returns? Just because I'm wondering if News 24 will totally produce the one now - from stories to production to presenters? It would make sense and be cost effective! (Though I personally like Sophie on the one)


Anna Ford went from SIX to ONE. Was that a promotion for her? Maybe she jumped at the opportunity to work an earlier shift and have the afternoon to herself?? Would Sian see a move from Breakfast to the One as a PROMOtion or a DEMOtion??

Being the ONE's main anchor could just provide anybody with a better work/life balance. These people have lives/families etc. Maybe it ain't about 'how many viewers are watching me' maybe it's about 'which role suits me' and 'which role am i being offered'?? Dermot stayed on Breakfast for 5 years . . . was that a step up for him from being Trevor's number 2 at ITN???


Well said. People seem to see employment solely as a linear hierarchical ladder, which is not the case. Often, people will remain in a position because they are happy with it. Not everyone strives to get to number one. Let's face it, any newsreader working on any of the BBC One bulletins is high profile anyway. I'm sure they all see each other as an equal team anyway, rather than thinking 'oh, he/she is below me'. As salfordjohn said, they may have personal commitments for which working on the One O'Clock News is more suitable. I know one person jumped ship because (among other reasons) the working hours weren't suitable for family life and they could find a more suitable job elsewhere.

Also, If you ask me Sophie moving to the one was a promotion - surely anchoring the flagship lunchtime show on her own is better than being the second co-presenter on a 30 minute program she has to share!


Actually, having a (good) co-presenter makes the job a bit easier, whether it be presenting a TV show or hosting a radio programme. If you have a colleague with you, you can help each other. For instance, on News 24 while one presenter is reading/interviewing, the other may be helping out by getting updates/re-ordering scripts etc. Having a co-presenter can help you to get out of tricky situations. Presenting a programme alone is a lot more demanding.
NG
noggin Founding member
itsrobert posted:
Actually, having a (good) co-presenter makes the job a bit easier, whether it be presenting a TV show or hosting a radio programme. If you have a colleague with you, you can help each other. For instance, on News 24 while one presenter is reading/interviewing, the other may be helping out by getting updates/re-ordering scripts etc. Having a co-presenter can help you to get out of tricky situations. Presenting a programme alone is a lot more demanding.


It depends on the status of the co-presenter.

On News 24, most partnerships are pretty equal, with the presenters sharing interviewing duties, and breaking news delivery, pretty equally.

However on some shows, there is a very definite "Main" presenter and "Number two" - with often one relegated to newsreading duties, with the main presenter doing the bulk of the interviewing.

Contrast News 24 double-heading with Channel Four News.
MO
Moz
noggin posted:
Contrast News 24 double-heading with Channel Four News.

I think it contrasts more strongly with the current ridiculous single-headed 'star'/skivvy newsreader Sky News set-up. Why have they done that?
NG
noggin Founding member
Moz posted:
noggin posted:
Contrast News 24 double-heading with Channel Four News.

I think it contrasts more strongly with the current ridiculous single-headed 'star'/skivvy newsreader Sky News set-up. Why have they done that?


Money? Two stars cost more than one star and a newsreader?
GI
gilsta
itsrobert posted:
gilsta posted:
There's plenty of logic in simulcasting it as the channels have different audiences - people at home are more likely to watch BBC One in the daytime but people in offices are far more likely to have News 24 on. There's not much developing news today anyway.


So are you implying that it's too much effort to press a button to switch channels?

My point is that the BBC are not offering a service to suit everyone. You say the three channels - BBC One/Two, News 24 and Parliament - have different audiences. True, but is the BBC catering for them by providing exactly the same programme on all three of the channels? I'd sooner have the option to watch the special event or not - not be forced to watch it no matter which channel I switch on.


Apart from us news junkies, most people I know don't go near the news channels but if they were at home with nothing else to do may be interested in seeing an event like this, hence why its on One. On the other hand, many offices / pubs / public places have N24 always on so it makes sense to show it there too in case anyone near a TV is interested.

On the subject of PMQs, the event being shown on the channels may be the same but the analysis and editorial decisions can vary hugely. BBC2 will focus mainly on the pure politics of the day with specifically-booked guests while N24 may focus more on the key announcements in addition to the politics, while Parliament is the only channel that provides full coverage of the entire debate. Again, triplecasting also enables places that always have N24 (or Parliament) on to follow proceedings without fumbling for a hidden remote.
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