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(January 2007)

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CH
chris
Charlie Wells posted:
r2ro posted:
With the suggested move, the main problem I can see is that there is no provision for N24 to opt-out of the nationals, which I think should be done if there's any significant news occurring around the time of the nationals.

I guess they'll say something along the lines of...
"In a moment viewers on BBC1 get the news from where they live, whilst the news continues on News 24. But first its time for the weather with [insert name]"
...for it to work smoothly I think the weather would need to be done 'out of the newsroom'. Then at the end of the weather on BBC1 they could hand over to the regions whilst News 24 could use a sting (or similar) to rejoin the studio.


I think a 2nd set will desperately needed for this to work so that for one they can opt-out for Breaking News, and two they can do a tidy changeover of presenters at 1 and 10.
KI
kitt22
chris posted:
Charlie Wells posted:
r2ro posted:
With the suggested move, the main problem I can see is that there is no provision for N24 to opt-out of the nationals, which I think should be done if there's any significant news occurring around the time of the nationals.

I guess they'll say something along the lines of...
"In a moment viewers on BBC1 get the news from where they live, whilst the news continues on News 24. But first its time for the weather with [insert name]"
...for it to work smoothly I think the weather would need to be done 'out of the newsroom'. Then at the end of the weather on BBC1 they could hand over to the regions whilst News 24 could use a sting (or similar) to rejoin the studio.


I think a 2nd set will desperately needed for this to work so that for one they can opt-out for Breaking News, and two they can do a tidy changeover of presenters at 1 and 10.


Come on now. How many times have N24 opted out of 1, 6 or 10 in the last year? Maybe 5, 10 times? It is not a really serious issue. They can still put a BREAKING NEWS strap on the N24 feed.
SE
seamus
Well if it's very important breaking news, they could either opt out to World's new set, or use World's current set, which belive would be a back up set.
HO
House
I think this is a terrible idea in some respects and a great one in others!

The 'branding' of having newsroom backdrops worked perfectly with News 24 and the nationals (when they relaunched), but then when the nationals relaunched to the london backdrop it just looked so messy.

Don't get me wrong, I think the News 24 staff work really hard and all, but with them running a 24 hour, non-stop service the amount of problems they seem to have is so much bigger than the number the nationals have. With a dedicated team for the nationals, they have longer to prepare, rehearse everything before it goes live, less mistakes made etc. Now will they have time to rehearse them? Will the dedicated team get bigger or stay News 24's current one?

If anything I think the nationals shouldn't have moved to the new studio - surely a real-life newsroom backdrop is cheaper than meters of TV screens never turned off?

Will the Six keep the same titles and backdrop as before or will it be relaunched? Is the solo presenting starting in November (like Wikipedia suggested) and if that is the case could it move to TC7 by then?
DA
Davidjb Founding member
seamus posted:
Well if it's very important breaking news, they could either opt out to World's new set, or use World's current set, which belive would be a back up set.


If the Breaking News is that bad then surely it would be relevant to the viewers watching on the BBC One bulletin anyway so shouldn't need to break away?
SE
Seb
imnogoth posted:


If anything I think the nationals shouldn't have moved to the new studio - surely a real-life newsroom backdrop is cheaper than meters of TV screens never turned off?


You really do talk some rubbish.

The National bulletins did not move to a new studio in 06 - the N6 set was rebuilt. The last set (03-06) had meters of projector screens with two false newsrooms.

The 99-03 set had a CSO view of the real newsroom - however this was a recording, one side a delayed reflection of the other to make the newsroom appear bigger.

The words statement, water, out of and blown come to mind - i'll leave you to rearrange these.
DU
Dunedin
I was one of those sceptical about losing the opt out potential of News 24 from national bulletins.

But to be honest it's not a major issue. If news breaks during the national, it can easily be strapped on screen for News 24 and mentioned by the presenters. If there is a press conference/pictures to go to, then News 24 can opt out with an out of vision presenter (i.e. a good old fashioned voiceover), thereby negating the need for a backup set.

99 days out of a 100 such a scenario will not occur, so it makes no sense to spend fortunes preparing for such a rarity.
NG
noggin Founding member
seamus posted:
Well if it's very important breaking news, they could either opt out to World's new set, or use World's current set, which belive would be a back up set.


Though the latter would be difficult - as there would be no staff to run a third studio...
ST
Stuart
alarsne53 posted:
The 99-03 set had a CSO view of the real newsroom - however this was a recording, one side a delayed reflection of the other to make the newsroom appear bigger.

It wasn't CSO, it was two back-projection screens in N6, fair enough with one side a delayed reflection of the other, but no CSO involved at all.
Noggin - back me up on this Shocked
TV
archiveTV
Dunedin posted:

99 days out of a 100 such a scenario will not occur, so it makes no sense to spend fortunes preparing for such a rarity.


Altough you could say a rolling news channel builds it's reputation on how it handles those raritys
NG
noggin Founding member
Davidjb posted:
seamus posted:
Well if it's very important breaking news, they could either opt out to World's new set, or use World's current set, which belive would be a back up set.


If the Breaking News is that bad then surely it would be relevant to the viewers watching on the BBC One bulletin anyway so shouldn't need to break away?


It is not just breaking News that N24 opt-away from the One, Six and Ten to cover - they also opt-away (or don't join) when an important news conferences are taking place. These would not sit well on a bulletin - but ARE what 24 hour news channels are about. Losing the ability to opt-out reduces the abilities of News 24 as a continuous news channel - but the cost savings must be worth it.

We get the channel the BBC can afford, not always the one it wants, to provide.
BR
Brekkie
Davidjb posted:
seamus posted:
Well if it's very important breaking news, they could either opt out to World's new set, or use World's current set, which belive would be a back up set.


If the Breaking News is that bad then surely it would be relevant to the viewers watching on the BBC One bulletin anyway so shouldn't need to break away?



Exactly. 99% of breaking news isn't anything the viewer couldn't wait upto half an hour to find out, while the remaining 1% would warrant being mentioned in the bulletin too if it was on air. Just look at iTV News last week with Ming Campbell - they did that justice in a standard news programme.

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